Interesting Video about black iraqi arabs. The rest of Iraqis are white.

Not all Arabs are dark skinned. Was Danny Thomas white? Yes. There is a continuum of skin color in the Middle East, just like a lot of places.

 

Supposedly the Arab Peninsula, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees, yes?

Latest theories say they may not have come from anywhere but been the original inhabitants, that is, the Canaanites

 

I think the problem is that racial identity is a lot more complex than skin pigment and geopolitical designations. German...is not a race. It is a country comprised of people who share many different genetic varieties. By now, they'd have the blood of peoples who occupied the lands of Russia and Mongolia and all the varieties of the Eastern European states, the French, the British, the Romans and various other Mediterranean peoples, etc.

Sometimes I mistake Guyanese people for Middle Eastern people, and their have been weird times where I mistook Hispanic people for Asian people. I might mistake Aborigines for Africans, and I'd still be making a mistake by believing that all Guyanese are "a race".

 

Yeah, the latest theories aren't backed up by really convincing evidence. They come from biblical minimalists. I have read their arguments, they aren't very convincing.

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I think what you say here is reasonable.

 

Exactly. Usama bin Ladin was half syrian-half yemeni arab. Yemenis have high levels of black admixture. Bin Ladin is a good example of an arab that is heavily mixed both in phenotype and genotype. He obviously isn't a white man, at least not purely caucasian.

Tony Shalhoub on the other hand is lebanese american, and has said that he himself is white. He is white. He just isn't the type of white that most americans encounter. But he doesn't look much different than jews, italians, or greeks. I honestly thought he was an american jew the first time I saw him on tv years ago.

 

I bet the ones in your silly video who call themselves "white", would not be considered white by people in the USA or Europe.

show me a brown-skinned "white" person and I'll show you someone who has no idea what he is.


calling a dark skinned Iraqi "white" is like calling Bill Clinton "black".

 

In my 'silly' video? I didn't make the video. Its journalism video about the racism that black iraqi arabs face from white iraqi arabs. The people that wouldn't consider sun tanned iraqis as white are defying physical anthroplogy, the fbi definition and the us census. That makes them willfully ignorant.

There is such a thing as swarthy white folk you know. But, no, all of these iraqis must be lying. I must be lying. The census must be lying. Physical anthropology must be a lie.

It is a fact that anyone with native origins from the middle east, europe, and north africa are white. And my video shows the iraqi arab perception of whiteness is exactly the same as the western one, white arabs are viewed as white, even with a tan, and black arabs, or afro-arabs are viewed as what they are, black, or to be more academic, negroid.

Europeans belong to different sub-races of caucasian/caucasoid. Most as I said would fit into the alpine, atlantid, nordic, baltid, borreby, and sometimes the mediterranean sub-races. Middle easterners are typically armenoid, assyriod, anatolid, arabid, and irano-afghan. Of course Bill Clinton doesn't look armenoid, anatolid or irano-afghan like most Jews and Armenians or northern Iraqis, he isn't of middle eastern descent. Ralph Nader on the other hand is white (lebanese), and would fit into these categories.

 

Does John Abizaid make your head explode??



Haven't you said in the past that middle eastern people can't have white skin and blue eyes?

 

do you know why white people are called "white"?

cause they tend to have white skin.

if dark skinned Arabs and Indians are white, then I am a Native American since I was born on Manhattan Island.

 

if a dark skinned Arab, or Indian, or Persian, or Berber, or Egyptian comes to NYC or Boston and declares "hey everybody, I am a white man!!!!" he will be laughed at all the way back to the airport.

 

Thats because a lot of americans are uneducated when it comes to the us census and physical anthropology and are ignorant of what the definition of a white person is.

 

For those interested in physical anthroplogy, this is a start to understanding middle eastern phenotype.

The Armenoid in physical anthropology, is a subtype of the Caucasian race.[1] "The countries of the northern part of Western Asia, namely Anatolia (Turkey), the Caucasus, Iran, and the Levant are the center of distribution" of the Armenoid Race.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenoid_race

Many Jews have armenoid traits, even those who are mixed, even to a significant degree. The so called 'jewish look' found among american jews is actually armenoid, sometimes anatolid. Its common amongst armenians, georgians, azerbaijanis, northern iraqis (kurds, assyrians), syrians, lebanese, palestinians, and some iranians. When someone says, 'that guy has a jewish nose', they are inadvertently referring to an armenoid trait.





These features are very common among american jews, but not exclusive to jews. They are also found in syrians, armenians palestinians, iraqis, and iranians. But when people talk about the 'jewish look' they mean armenoid. Its mainly about facial structure, but skin color in armenoids is usually a shade darker than most european people. Of course when tanned by the sun, armenoids can appear near black.

 

Never before have I encountered a non-white person soo desperate to convince himself and others that he is actually white. Truly remarkable.

NO, these people are not white

 

I keep giving you facts and you keep ignoring them. There is no sense in repeating them.

Those people in that pic are living year round all of their lives in temperatures that exceed 110 degrees. Some Iraqi arabs are mixed with veddoid as well. Iraqis, especially arabs have very high tanning capability, you can see it in the pic, clear as day. Its in our genes, we have the melanin capability. Again, in the summer, I can look black on exposed skin. Put some other armenoids/anatolids, including american lebanese, jews, turks and syrians in that climate, and they will be just as dark if they live there year round. I never said that our skin color can't tan well past white, but our race is still white, unless of course if there is significant sub-saharan, mongoloid, or veddoid admixtured. Again, this is so obvious, its laughable.

Look up the census. Look up the FBI definition. And of course all those white iraqis in the video must be lying in some desperate attempt to be white lol.

This is an Iraqi-Israeli, a jew, not arab, and not mixed with Veddoid. He is Armenoid. Not tanned. Clearly a subclass of the white race. Its about facial structure, although obviously his skin is white naturally. I bet if he was in the sun all his life instead of studying in the yeshiva, he would be just as dark as them.


Another Iraqi Jew (not arab). Obviously white/caucasian/caucasoid.

 

American Jew (left) and Lebanese Arab (right). The exact same color. Medium tan. They would tan even darker if they spent a year in Basra working out in the sun, or even if they were out in the sun in Israel (which gets insanely hot). When I come back from Israel, I look black in my skin but I obviously am not a black person.

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its idiotic to say that dark skinned Iraqis are white people.

if they come to the American South and say they are "white", they will get their asses kicked.

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Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs, Berbers may be "Caucasian", but they certainly are not white.

we should call them "Coloured", as they are not white but not black.

 

This discussion just shows how dumb the concept of race truly is.

Check out the "white" girl;




Check out the "black" girl;



Its all so silly.

 

this thread was getting somewhere until the Op decided to troll his own thread. Now we have two quite simply idiotice viewpoints contesting the last 5 pages. take a hint guys.

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thats why the term black has NO credible scientific basis, neither does caucasion.

Mr A: the sun is green
Mr B: No the sun is blue
Mr A: no, youre wrong, the sun is green
Mr B: actually it is you who is wrong, the sun is blue
Mr A: NO! you are wrong!
MR B : NO, You are!

 

so why do you keep calling people "white"?????

 

if you want to be called white who am ito tell you you are not, you can be whatever you like, jewish, muslim...

 

I am a Jew, thank you very much.

 

you can pretend to be whatever you like, idont really care.

 

Many berbers and arabs are white. The ones that are not mixed are white. Indians and Pakistanis are south asian. Its according to your own us census. And how hard is the concept of tanning to understand? Especially in a part of the world where the temperatures go about 110 degrees?? lol And a lot of people living there spend nearly all of their time outside, in the sun. They are already olive skinned to begin with, when an olive skinned person tans, their skin can look black. Its the facial features that matter. Iraqis fall under many different sub-classifications, but they are nearly all caucasoid/white/caucasian, same thing.

 

people in the Middle East tan very well. that's cause they are not white.

their skin, eyes, and hair color is due to evolution, adapting to a much sunnier climate.

unlike white people, who have lighter skin to adapt to having less sun.

white people who live in Florida, Mexico, Africa, and Australia still don't look like Arabs even though they live in a very sunny climate.

that's because they are white, and dark Arabs are not.

sure, some Arabs, Berbers, Kurds, Persians are white.

but its absurd to say they are all white.

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expose a white person to those temps, and an Arab person to those temps, and they will still look very different.

evolution has affected white people and most Arabs differently.

 

Nearly all that is said here goes against the us census, physical anthropology (science), and the views of Iraqis in Iraq themselves. Race is not defined by tanning ability or by hair color or the amount of 'olive' in one's complexion. It just isn't.

Again, white people are those who are indigenous to europe, north african, and the middle east.

White Americans are people of the United States who are considered or consider themselves White. The United States Census Bureau defines White people as those "having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as "White" or reported entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian"[4] and so is a wider group than European American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_American

So Germans, Moroccans, Irish, Arabs, all belong to the same racial group, white, even though no nationality is literally 'white' in skin tone, not even germans. The only people who are literally 'white' are albinos of any race or people with extreme vitiligo.

White Americans come in many shades, some have an ability to tan more than others. Some have blonde hair, others have jet black hair. Some have blue eyes, others have brown eyes. "White" is just a word. It just pertains to racial caucasians who are not heavily mixed with mongoloid, negroid, or other races.