Iran rejects Israeli claim it was behind tanker attack off Oman

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  1. notme

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    Iran rejects Israeli claim it was behind tanker attack off Oman

    The Iranian government has rejected claims by Israel, the United States, and the United Kingdom that it was behind an attack on a ship off Oman earlier this week that killed two crew members.

    Liberian-flagged oil tanker Mercer Street, managed by a company belonging to Israeli billionaire Eyal Ofer, was struck late on Thursday northeast of the Omani island of Masirah, in an apparent drone attack that killed a Romanian and a UK national.



    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...i-claim-it-was-behind-ship-attack-that-killed


    Iranian tankers have been frequently hit in the past. it seems it's all fair and games when that happens and who the culprit near the coast of Israel was, seems totally not relevant.... Until the miraculous same kind of incidents happen to Israeli ships. That's when the smiles and cheers quickly change in whine faces with a acute case of amnesia.

    The question is, how is going with your amnesia? And should Israel pull up their big boy pants and accept their actions in the past get the well deserved response?

    https://www.dw.com/en/oil-tanker-explosion-off-syrian-coast-kills-three/a-57326362
     
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    The term 'highly likely' and similar terms are used when the UK and US want to instill something into the public's minds without any verification.

    In a statement published on Sunday, UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said it was “highly likely” Iran attacked the tanker in international waters with one or more drones.
     
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    Six tankers have been put out of control electronically by Iran near the coast of the UAE and not 4 as previously reported. Iran seized one of the ships so things are heating up.

    Iran's defenses are all up as it prepares for conflict and is on a full war alert. All the airspace around Iran's ports have been closed for fear of a drone attack. In the meantime the Iranian Guards will begin a 2 day ballistic missile drill.


     
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    Oh? Then it must be true.
     
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    Of course this was Iran - a tit for tat response to Israeli aggression.
     
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    No, it's what they say when they're not 100% certain but feel that it is highly likely the case based on what information is available.
     
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    Killing innocent people on a tanker is not a good thing. People's lives were tragically ended prematurely. Yet all you can think to do, evidently, is excuse the killer and blame Israel. That's sad.
     
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    That's what they want you to think, but notice how 'highly likely' is never said if it's to Britain's detriment or to the detriment of its allies.

    Britain like us, has a foreign policy called 'strategic ambiguity'. This means that verification and facts are not necessary, when insinuations can be just as persuasive and harmful.





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    I'll believe Israel 1,000 times before I'll believe Iran.
     
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    Not surprising given your love of state sponsored propaganda. Israel are huge liars with respect to such things -- deny deny deny - same as most other nations .. including the US .. so your belief is a bit of a joke .. demonstrable nonsense.

    That said .. in this particular case - seeks likely that it was Iran.. and we should expect more of this in response to Israeli aggression against Iran ..
     
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    I believe Israel because they are the most democratic and respecter of western values nation in the entire Middle East.
     
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    That's because you're partial. Israel's government has lied quite a few times - although I have found their press to be much more free than ours. There should be an impartial investigation - something we'll never get from the US and Britain.


    The UK called for a closed-door UN Security Council meeting on Friday to discuss an alleged drone attack that occurred on July 31 on the Liberian-flagged oil tanker Mercer Street, which is managed by an Israeli firm. Britain told the UNSC on Tuesday it was “highly likely” Iran was responsible for the strike, a claim Tehran has fervently denied.

    Washington responded to the incident by voicing support for its ally, vowing it would work to ensure there is “accountability” and that Iran was “identified and dealt with at the Security Council.”

    However, a UN source told RT that some members of the council were not prepared to back the UK’s allegations during Friday’s meeting without a thorough and independent investigation into the event.

    “It was obvious that not all UNSC members were ready to support the accusatory suggestions of the Western partners while not having the results of an independent and neutral international investigation,” the source said.

     
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    What you mean is that Israel respects Western liberal values, which is not something I would be proud of, nor a lot of other people in the world, since it means a complete break down of all moral boundaries.

    Without those boundaries, how can anyone believe anything coming from the West and from their cohorts?


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    It's not self hatred, it's a love for the values and country I was raised in. It doesn't exist today.


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    You are projecting your "Self Hatred" on others .. in an unsupported Ad Hom/ demonization of the messenger montage.

    Putin is Praised by many in Russia .. just as Rotten Ronnie is praised by you.. Stating achievements of some leader is reality.. the only "Pathetic Self Loathing" is your inability to handle reality that conflicts with your narrative.

    How is Eastern Orthodox Heretics ? Heretics in relation to what Denomination and why .. Hearing you try to substantiate this nonsense claim should be a hoot :) The floor is yours.
     
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    Yea? just the same huh...
    How many Americans blamed Ronald Reagan in poisoning his political rivals ?
     
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    Well @Gifteddone blames Reagan for children being killed in Central America.

    By the way @Gifteddone. I attend the Church of Christ. As far as I'm concerned any church that adds something not present in the New Testament are heretics.
     
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    None that I know of.. what is the fallacious point you are trying to make this time :)
     
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    When Iran's tankers close to Israel are being hit, where people are killed.... it's all: it doesn't matter.
    But when Israeli tankers close to Iran are being hit, where people are killed.... it's all: "highly likely" that Iran did it and bla bla bla.

    The sad part is that you do not get the fanatic hypocrisy how Israel and the west just brushes the murder of civilians and destruction of property under the rug... when it's "highly likely" they are behind it. And you're part of that hypocrisy. Are you aware of it now?
     
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    Pff... they kicked out +700.000 Arab civilians, thieved their real estate so they could be a predominantly Jewish democracy ... voting in laws that Jews can get their real estate back when they got removed, but Arab civilians may not. That's how Israel caused the latest scrimmage. Them Jim Crow / apartheid laws is what the US was about in the late 1960's, but the west do not have them values anymore by a long shot.
     
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    I have news for you, my friend. Anti-semitism does not exist because of Israel. Israel exists because of anti-semitism.

    Think about it.
     
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    That makes no sense to me.
     
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    Yeah ... that is the history .. we armed and trained the death squads - in the use of "terror" for maniacle dictators in Central America -.. thought you were supposed have some history skills ? or at least remember previous conversations. What part did you not get the last time ?

    How does Eastern Orthodox conflict with the beliefs of this church .. such that they are heretics ? what do they add to the NT that offends the sensibilities of your Church ?
     
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    Ok, let me give it to you in another, more simplistic way.

    Jews are not hated because of what Israel does, or because Israel exists.
    Israel exists, because Jews are hated.
     
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    Just because the U.S. trained the personnel that later were part of central American death squads doesn't make us responsible for them.
     

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