Iran sends troops to Syria

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  1. JohnConstantine

    JohnConstantine Active Member

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    Support for Assad sucks.

    The Syrian people are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    Unrest didn't just happen over night, Assad has a terrible human rights record, the people were not protesting for years for no reason, a lot of the time under pain of torture, arbitrary imprisonment, death.

    Yes, now war has broken out, there are those who will take advantage, from Islamists to imperial powers.

    Supporting Assad still sucks... I wonder what would be better for the people, to have some western sympathiser regime, or Assad's?

    Any answers on that one?
     
  2. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want the whole Arab world to be ran by hardcore islamists so they can find out, again, that Islamism doesn't work. And that it's time to move on to secularism.
     
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    LOL at those in denial. this is NOT an uprising, it's NOT a revolution, it's a pre-planned Geo-political stunt in Syria because they are Iran's Arab allies. with support to Hezbollah, one of Israels many "enemies"

    Deny it all you want, of course you would Gilos. Pathetic.

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  4. JohnConstantine

    JohnConstantine Active Member

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    Yep, hardcore Islamists have no business being in power, and neither do secular, corrupt despots. Assad should have been more compassionate towards his people, and he could get a better taste in music while I'm at it... apparently he listens to right said fred.
     
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    It's not as simple as you are presenting.
     
  6. Abu Sina

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    well the answer lies in the great work that they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan

    civil sectarian war no doubt for Syria if fingers of US Israel and Saudi are involved
     
  7. Gilos

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    Assad killed thousands before there were any resistance at all, he shot them for protesting in the streets! I live in denial???

    look, sorry if your "football" team got nailed but saying Assad is acting in self defense FOR the Syrian ppl is just an audacity to the dead.


    I see the UZI picture, if you can prove that's a rebel arsenal ill stand corrected
     
  8. Abu Sina

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    start pumping up the tyres on your bicycle them and buy some candles
     
  9. Abu Sina

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    yes just the same story that Gaddaffi killed thousands before Hitlary Clinton swept in with her jet fighters when actually the real numbers by the people on the ground were no more than 300!
     
  10. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have oil here. You need our greenbacks more then we need your oil.

    The only reason we don't tap into our oil, is so your economies keep running, which keeps you stable.
     
  11. Gilos

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    So killing just a few hundreds of civilian protesters before the resistance fought back is no biggie - according to the Egyptian former "rebel"?

    How many ppl did Mubarak kill? how the hell can you support Assad???
     
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    The same human right organization that report every offense agaist the Palestinians also report the Syrian casualties,


    Of course Gaddaffi never killed his own ppl. neither did Assad, Only Mubarak the insane did, then he resigned!.....the Bastard!
     
  13. Abu Sina

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    You missed the point.

    The US was lying to invade Libya.

    10,000 dead they say now in Syria??? so why the big saviour is not saving Syrians for 10,000 when they sent in fighter jets and opened the warehouses to wahabi rebels for 300 dead?

    thats the question

    Mubarak killed 865

    Bahrain have killed proportionally many more than Egypt so why the silence in Bahraini dead?.

    The answer is US hypocrisy as usual

    I also never said I support Assad anywhere so thats a lie.
     
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    "Our oil ? + Who's the "WE" ? Are you ashamed to reveal + state your location ?
     
  15. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm from the US, we have so much oil on our coasts that we let the Chinese drill it.
     
  16. Gilos

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    If you have proof to any claim please show it, about Libya or Syria, what I gather from your words are speculations, I don't know the truth either but so far the evidence point to the Syrian leader that committed mass murders - regardless of terror groups that are also in the area now.

    I didn't "lie", I might be wrong to assume you do support him.
     
  17. JohnConstantine

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    Indeed, there is always hypocrisy afoot. I don't think anyone buys the idea of any American humanitarian monolith, no that there are not those on the ground who genuinely try to do the right thing.

    The facts remain, America wouldn't be able to meddle had Assad treated his people better, same for Mubarak, same for Gaddafi. People become frustrated. And while we're on the subject, why is it that these Arabs are able to be bought off by NATO? Why aren't the Arabs fighting against Assad because of his actions? Why is it always some kind of money grabbing subcutaneous sectarian agenda? Why are these arabs willing to kill children who supposedly support Assad? These terrorist rebels are US backed right? Isn't it generally a trait of Islamist to be strictly anti-west? Well only when it suits them so it seems. It's so sad that Arab brothers and sisters can be manipulated in this way... and to what end? What is the goal of the foreign terrorist? And why is it not to establish a peaceful Syria? Why is it the Arab cannot unite not only against American imperialism but also totalitarian brutality and despotism, these (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thieving victims of excessive grandiosity, greed, and cruelty. Why is the Arab world so mired in sectarianism? I’m afraid simply blaming the west for all of these issues is far too simplistic. If the Arab world wants to protect itself from imperialism they need to put their differences aside and unite. Because the American hand will always be there to take advantage of internal unrest where possible, my advice is don’t give them the chance.
     
  18. Mario Milano

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    Makes me laugh all these people on here claiming that Assad is the problem when it is clearly the USA, gee dudes it was on TV that they planned this just like Libya. Take a look for yourself, straight from a generals mouth!
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    "We're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.."
    Video Interview with General Wesley Clark

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5166
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    [video=youtube;WyEw1ZeGLe8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyEw1ZeGLe8[/video]
     
  19. Marlowe

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    Gilos we do not have all the facts how the Syrian uprising started and which interests it was intended to serve. It depends whether those first civilian protesters was non-violented or resorted to violence as part of last years "Arab Spring " . Violent protestors - the world over are dealt with harshly to restore law + order. Just try taking up arms against your government and see what happens .
    Assad strikes me as being much weaker than his father or - Saddam - Gadaffy - Mubarak . I do know he's surrounded by much stronger generals who's got a great deal to loose by a regime change .

    I also recall , last November , there was Pro-Assad demonstrations in Damascus and many other syrian cities.


    It proves , there's nowt so queer as folk


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  20. JohnConstantine

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    To me it's very plausible these people are supporting out of fear.

    Either fear of the regime.

    Or fear of sectarian violence which has ensued if the regime was to lose grip on power.

    Either way it's not genuine support.
     
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    Again... American imperialism is a very real thing. It's there for all to see. But that does not mean for a second that Assad is not part of the problem.

    Stop giving credit to this pig.
     
  22. Abu Sina

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    You forget the most important thing though.
    Israel creation on that we are all united so therefore have to be broken into small pieces and contained either by bribery, threats, wars, sanctions, brutal puppet dictators.


    you are talking about regimes being bought off not the millions of citizens


    Because we do not interfere in other countries business. It is the peoples business to sort themselves out. We Egyptians never once asked for outside help or intereference and that is the culture here. We mediate instead but at the moment our focus is no ridding ourseleves of our own dictators so it is easy for foreign hands to move into that vacuum.

    because it works beautifully
    look at the US support for the IRA for instance


    because they are Wahabi indoctrinated and madmen and we are all infidels to them so no problem beheading the Wahabi style


    US Israel and Wahabi Saudi backed yes


    no
    not as long as you stay in your own country and leave us alone and stop supporting Israeli terrorists and killers and thieves imorally
    we really dont care about you
    it's just that you seems to be everywhere except your own country these days causing conflict
    Your imperialism and arrogance is never ending it seems

    It's a fight we must endure to stop the spread of Wahabi extremism but it is not helped by the US and Western support for it and it's nest.


    Money to take back home to Mali or Libya or wherever else he is recruited from by NATO


    He's not Syrian so he has no allegiance or love of Syria. It's about money just as Blackwater mercenaries etc do it for money.



    Greed and bribery and being arrested if you speak out as in Bahrain this morning



    Divide and rule and old very good tactic of controlling people


    Who are to be blamed? the revolutionaries who finally stood up ONLY now to be rejected and despised because they dared to revolt but the result was not what the cheering West expected?


    That will never happen because of greed and kings and emirs and oil and land bribery and resources


    yes and thats the biggest problem

    Americans hand is always present in the chaos with Israel moving its fingers
     
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    Couldnt watch the video Too bad abt the video -copyright protection - -


    Yep, I do remember reading abt Gen Wesley Clark interview . Shall try getting transcript.
     
  24. Abu Sina

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    are you saying all these people were held at gunpoint and forced?


    lets not kid ourselves

    this is all about Iran and regime change and installing another shah figure in Syria and Iran

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    Wahabi rebel fighter Mohiuddin Mahmud Shihab

    wanted for slaughter of children of Houla

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