Is everyone here on the forum under 25?

Sad but true. A person who is 25 is NOT the same person at 40 or 50. Life makes you wiser and different. They'll see.....in time.

 

Fair enough - but with a caveat: if they are old enough to fight and die for our country and do...then they should be able to vote.

If not, they're skulls full of mush, and elect morons who get us in these messes.

I'm in favor of the 25 yr old voting age minimum for the exact same reason as Jonelyn and MAcc2007.

 

And just how the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you know that? How can you POSSIBLE know about the intelligence and maturity of every 18-25 year old in this country? I am sure that most 18-25 year olds don't vote so we had less to do with the election of the past few presidents than you dinosaurs... Does it make you feel good to insult an entire generation of people on an online forum because of some misconceptions you have about my age group? If people my age are "full of mush", and I assure that we are not all that way, it is because of you old people who raised us. Everything we do we learned from you. Whatever your animus is towards young adults it is bassed on misconception I assure you. Plenty of us are certainly capable of being responsible and making sound decisions. Some of you however are not. Age is not a defining factor in one's ability to make decisions as a responsible adult. To be honest I am offended that you think otherwise.

 

Wiser != more conservative.

In fact the fact that the more educated you are the more likely you are to support liberal policies shows otherwise.

 

Yes, even educated conservatives. I took a personal finance class and the professor was conservative. But he also warned us about for profit colleges and banks ripping you off with every little fee they could. Doesn't seem like the Tea Party would approve . But he also bashed unions at GM, so he was in line with conservatives in some ways. I also had a political science class where the professor was openly Republican and bashed Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi a lot, but he liked the idea of universal health care.

 

True. I was a socialist at 25. But as i got older and wiser i started moving more to the right.

 

Oh absolutely. I love educated conservatives. But the educated conservatives are not who are in charge right now. Educated conservatives do not hold the rediculious ideology that the government can't have it's hand in anything or that there is never a circumstance where we should raise taxes. Educated conservatives are about smart fiscal policy. Universal healthcare is smart fiscal policy. A balanced tax policy is a smart fiscal policy.

 

Sounds like you just enjoy extremes.

 

Maybe. Sometimes extreme conditions demand extreme responses.

 

LOL....If you don't, then you will not be holding up your end of the standards that those before you worked so hard to set.

 

Well firstly let me say how truly refreshing it is to see so many young people on here. If we are truly an aging society and oldies care and think as much about the future as they are made out to then why is this thread relevant.

I have seen here that not only do you need to be "old" to be intelligent, you need to be travelled. Well from a little rough research I have found that 50% of Australians, 42% Canadians and 35% of US Citizens hold passports which means Australians are smarter than Canadians who are smarter than Americans .... hmm maybe I have proved you correct, bugger, so back to age lol

I am 57 and find it rather refreshing and comforting to know that some young are interested in political forums rather than XBox ones. Keep on keeping on young people, you are our future.

As for most of the rest of you, go back to counting and amassing your wealth while I and those that think like me try to save the planet for another couple of hundred years at least I hope.

 

Maybe, but education and knowledge is far more important than wisdom when it comes to politics

 

The bolded statement is incorrect. We already have a massive amount of government intervention in the healthcare system over the past 50 years, and prices are continuously skyrocketing the more govt gets involved. What makes you think that even more government is going to magically bring costs down?

 

People never ever left their country. That's why.

 

I don't understand what you're saying.

 

Different, but not always better.

I think many people start making too many compromises. They stop dreaming and become cynical and bitter because life did not turn out the way the wanted or whatever.

I'm 47 and personally I think that one should always be re-evaluating and refining your lives. But there are many things worth holding onto, and youthful idealism is one of them as long as it is tempered with a realism gained from experience.

Don't belive this crap that old people are all conservative because they are older and wiser or rich people are all conservative. That is just old conservatives trying to placate themselves. I know lots of people my age who are "liberals" and are very successful. They are doctors and lawyers, stock brokers and IT Directors and would be slammed by all the conservatives on this board as liberals.

 

Shut up and agree.

 

Not everyone is under 25. Most older conservatives, who are not in the elite wealthy category, have the cognitive equivelent of a 12 year old. That is the mentality some of us are dealing with. But they are easy marks to ID once they start a ranting propagana they just heard. There is age and there is cognitive levels of functioning. Both are not congruent and a person's dialoge will show where they are functioning at.

If you want to communicate with a less intelligent on this forum, you must use 12 year old communication skills, i.e., double space, 5 word sentences, and no more than 4 sentences on a post.

 

No, not everyone here is 25 and a college student - I turned 18 two weeks ago, and I am a high school student. Contrary to your claim, neither I, nor the other teenagers on this board, lecture anybody (not that I have seen, anyway,) nor do we claim omniscience.

I don't think I know it all, and I take advice from 80 year olds, and I take advice from 15 year olds - it just depends upon the subject. If I want cool strategies for The World of Warcraft, I will ask a 12-18 year old, but if I want to know what the world was like in the 1970s, I will ask someone's grandad. But I am sufficiently informed to be able to quote Wilde as saying "I am not young enough to know everything." (And to know that 'flamed' is not spelt 'flammed'. )

I am living approximately 12,000 miles from my home in Kent, and I have lived away from home since I was six. I am in my last year of high school, so I do not have a job (and will very likely not take up a professional career for another four or five years,) but I am not totally without responsibilities or life experiences. Some of this (and even more) may be said of most of the teenagers who post here.

We claim no expert knowledge in the area of taxation, but some of us might value social justice, and posit the necessity of taxation as the price of civilisation. One does not need to be paying off two mortgages, and have five children, in order to see what might benefit society as a whole.

And as for the inexperience of younger people - this can vary. I have lived in two different societies, and visited (briefly) 24 others. I am not saying this to demonstrate how much I know about the world, merely to show that one cannot generalise too much about these things. I have also been reading and posting on political fora since I was 12 - this is all information, some of which can be useful. So, with respect, I think you are mistaken in the opinion that nothing may be learnt from someone under 25.

 

Um...I think we all agree that the world has been going into the crapper for the last 30-40 years...do you think that was the fault of those who are currently under 25?
The previous generation is the one that has (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up. They are the ones that gave away what the people in the 30's and 40's fought for. So, if you are tired of people disagreeing with out and "lecturing" you, realize that the things we have been doing for 40 years have not worked and you are probably wrong.

 

Spoken like someone under the age of 25 and lacking wisdom, lol...

One can have "knowledge" about just about anything, at any given age; same can hold true for "education". What are you "educated" about??? What do you have "knowledge" of??? If you are young, how is that shaped by experience???

As an example, you can have volumes full of encyclopedic knowledge about "Keynesian ecomonics"... it is ostensibly used the world over. The theory is seemingly logical and sound; yet, there is one fatal flaw - human nature.

Communism should hold water in theory as well... acamdemics push varieties of all forms of totalitarianism - perhaps it is the logic of the argument that drives them to fill young skulls of mush with this nonsense; and they themselves, being isolated in their ivory towers cannot see past the beautiful theory to the ugly reality.

Academia is chock full of leftist theoretical nonsense... kids are immersed in this stuff most of their young academic careers - it is entirely predictable that they would be swayed into believing many things that in the "real world" are simply false in practice.

There is a reason why young people tend to grow increasingly more conservative as they age - the idealism of youth is replaced by the practical wisdom of experience and observation.

Tortoise and hare - there is no substitute for wisdom; and wisdom is usually only purchased with experience.

 

The educated liberals in the US were big fans and supporters of Mussolini and Hitler during their time.

 

I was a police officer for 30 years and I'd estimate that 95% of the people I arrested were adolescents. Some were 16-year old adolescents and some were 66-year old adolescents. Adolescence is not necessarily limited to age.

 

You may find the information accumulating in this thread in the Forum interesting: http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/204643-age-group-you-part-2.html

From one "old guy" to another, try to remember that the twenty-somethings of today are strikingly different from people who are, say, older than about 45. They are not stupid! But, unfortunately, most of them have been poorly educated in our public schools, and so appear to lack both breadth and depth of understanding in so many subjects.

A lot of this is eventually corrected with the almost inevitable series of "life experiences" we all undergo, but I am genuinely concerned that most young Americans today will suffer -- greatly -- because of a clot of international economic power-brokers that have determined to destroy the United States and replace it with an international economic and political hegemony. Sadly, many younger people under about 45 wouldn't understand this, or make any sense out of it at all... and that is why they will suffer as our standard of living continues to deteriorate....

 

The world is not going into the crapper, that is a fallacy. We have internet now, and the baconator. The world is pretty good.