Is evolution a religious belief?

Are you claiming a stack of gold bars appearing from nothing is impossible by the whole universe can appear from nothing? Anti-matter is another example of something that has a name but can not be proved to exist. Sort of like Leprechauns.

 

It's just a debate topic.

Evolutionists like to claim Christians only rely on religious beliefs, "godunit" to explain Creation and other events, when the hypocrisy is pointed out by their reasoning for their explanation for the universe as "nothingdunit" they claim they can't prove it but they believe it happened. That logically is the same as believing in a supernatural event. That is my position.

 

Lol wut? Anti matter has been observed and its existence documented, it exists. Fact. Proven. Not arguable. The universe may have an indeterminate origin but it operates based on physical laws that can't be violated. Objects can't just pop out of nowhere, it's impossible.

 

The stories are all true, though many are also written in metaphor or as analogy or parable.

 

An excellent point. As a supporter of evolution I cannot dispute what you have said.

 

Always interesting to see people assume that belief in God means one ignores science or that someone that believes in what science proves to be the truth means there is no God. Neither is true with the many that believe in God and also understand that science only goes to show how truely wonderous God truely is. God gave us a mind but it is up to us whether we use it or not.

 

Can a universe pop out of nowhere? Anti-matter is conjecture, which means is someone's imagination.

 

Anti matter is PROVEN TO EXIST. It is a FACT. NOT CONJECTURE, FACT. THIS IS NOT ARGUABLE SO STOP TRYING.

As to the universe - well, we have no way currently of proving how the universe came into existence, so I certainly can't tell you if another universe could. Even if it did, how would we know about it? We exist in this universe. Any other universes that may exist aren't visible to us.

 

I do not know of ANY person of faith who ignores science, so their statement is flawed at it's genesis. (See how I did that?)

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

 

No it isn't, it is only a hypothesis as is Black Energy, Black Matter, Oort Clouds, uetc. to attempt to explain why the known laws of science do not jive with cosmic evolution.

Which is exactly my point, you may believe the universe came into existence with a bang from nothing. That, by definition is a belief system, which requires faith which is a religion. Just reading how excised one gets when their religion is challenged is almost as if I had drawn a picture of Mohammed for a Muslim.

 

The word "evolution" by itself can be ambiguous. While "cosmic evolution" may be a valid term to describe a subject, the topic was clearly "biological evolution". So, to avoid further confusion, I will clarify that I meant "The origin of the universe doesn't have anything to do with biological evolution".

I was merely making the point that you are attempting to redefine established terms themselves.

The dogma here is the fallacy of "missing links".

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My irony meter just exploded. You believe that the Earth is 6000 years old - enough said.

Then just concentrate on the facts. That's enough.

 

Anti matter EXISTS. What do you not understand about that? It is not a hypothesis if we have SEEN AND DETECTED IT. We say there is anti matter because we observed its existence, it is not something we hypothesized about and later found evidence of. It has nothing to do with Dark Matter, it is something we discovered in the process of experimentation. You are absolutely delusional if you continue to exist otherwise. Anti matter exists. FACT. 100%. NOT DISPUTABLE. YOU ARE AN IDIOT IF YOU SAY OTHERWISE.

Stop putting words in my mouth.
This is what we know:

The Big Bang created the universe.

Why did this occur? No clue. Not provably anyway. No belief is required to say "I have no idea", because that statement is a fact: we do not know, and neither do you or anyone else. We can hypothesize, but nothing considering the ultimate origin of the universe has yet been proven.

Whereas, religion claims to know the origin of the universe (God) without ay proof whatsoever. It has no scientific basis or evidence so ti is even less likely than the multiverse theory or the theory that the whole universe is a hologram, because there is at least physical logic, if not proof, behind those ideas.

 

Neither are armadillos. What's you're point?

 

Someone once said there are no stupid questions. The thread clearly showed that is not true.

 

Yeah it's the Church of Materialism, and they even have their high priests, and the laymen. They are socially active, and infect academia, and even have their own heretics, who the editor of Nature in the UK, said Sheldrake's book, was a book for burning.

Not that I am in the camp of the Christian fundamentalists, mind you. But I do think it is more probable that an Intelligence is involved, I just don't fall prey to trying to describe that Intelligence, in anthropomorphic terms. I think that is as silly as what the atheists do.

 

Since I wrote the OP, I will say you are wrong, I am referring to cosmic and biological evolution. One does not start reading a book 2/3 of the way through or start a race 1 foot from the finish line.

Evolution is the normal terminology used in cosmic evolution.

That's my point, they are both believed faith.

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No it doesn't.

 

That wasn't addressed to you.

 

Your belief is not required, it continues to exist regardless. You are wrong. Deal with it.

 

And we are supposed to accept your words as true? LOL. Can you show proof that he is "wrong"?

 

How much anti matter have been observed in the lab?

 

You act like I'm trying to prove the existence of ghosts. This is well-known science, plug it into Google and you'll be swamped in it. Your ignorance is not an excuse for insisting you're right.

 

I have no idea. I doubt anyone is counting the total, though you could probably find out if you scoured every anti-matter experiment and added up all the masses observed. But A lab? You don't even need a lab, you can find antimatter in thunderstorms. Positrons, to be exact.

 

No....Evolution is not a religious belief.

Evolution is now a FACT....proven upon a Genetic Molecular/Atom Level.

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Who is saying that I am 'right'. I am merely seeking the proof that is required when someone makes a positive assertion. PROOF = evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true. So.... COMPEL my mind to accept what you are saying as 'true'.

 

Well here again we seem to have possibly fallen into another redefinition or misdefinition of terms. Define what you mean by anti matter, what is it and where can one find it and study it?