Is "global warming" driving the very snowy winters we've seen in recent years?

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    So-called "global warming" is a conspiracy of liberals who want to strangle western manufacturing and to outsource both technologies and manufacturing to China which is non-white, non-Christian and have more affinity to leftism.
     
  2. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    You are indeed correct, Ostap.

    The "warmies" in our group will not be happy until all of us live and exist like our great grandparents did in 1875.

    If the "warmies" really want to do something to help the environment, they really should address the overpopulations of the 7 billion people who live in third world countries.

    The governments for these countries are very busy building more and more coal-fired power plants to satisfy the demands of their billions and billions of people for more and more electricity!
     
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    The problem with the right-wing climate change deniers is that they complain all the solutions suggested are leftist. Of course they are - because industry doesn't want to be bothered and you'd rather ignore the science and stick your heads in the sand. The real solution would be to man up and admit the problem and suggest solutions that are more right wing. If you're not on the field, the other team is going to run up the score.
     
  4. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    Ha-Ha!

    You are mistaken, s-f.

    Too bad for the "warmies" the Medieval Warm Period conflicts with their highly-discredited "Hockey Stick" model.

    "Finally, we have been experiencing no increase since 2002, the temperatures have dropped slightly [26]. And that even though the emissions of CO2 from fossil fuels in exactly the same period increased to previously unmatched dimensions."

     
  5. PatriotNews

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    What does it mean to you? Why would you think I don't understand my own words. Is there something about my statement with which you disagree? Just to let you know, the globe has been going through these cyclical periods of warming and cooling for hundreds of thousands of years.
     
  6. _Inquisitor_

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    I Have not debated with you so i do't know if you just came to troll or you have a genuine interest in my answer.

    do you mind a short test so i can see if you are a religious believer or not?
     
  7. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All educated people look to those who know their subject for knowledge, and the others believe in witchcraft and devilish plots. We all know where the Rapublicans belong there.
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Yes, so, what is causing the cycles??
     
  9. paco

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    I firmly believe that the changes in climate all over the world are directly attributed to undersea volcanic activity taking place on the ocean floor and the subsequent earthquakes that have altered the ocean currents. Remember the huge tsunami that killed tens of thousands of people in the South Pacific back in late 2004? The loss of sea ice in the Arctic and Antarctic regions of the world are very likely connected to ocean currents being altered, since as we all know, ocean currents are the primary cause and consequence of weather patterns all over the world. Just look at the Gulf Stream as proof of this phenomenon.
     
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    LMAO, one more arbitrary thread bereft of science claiming scientific knowledge.

    When you learn concepts like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis

    Then you can start doing the leg work, gather the data, perform the analysis, run your models, make your claims. Deniers have done nothing, in fact, this thread uses a link that references people who have not doen that.

    I haven't done the work either, but the ones that have, almost unanimously say man is the main cause. I believe because of the process I just described must take place in order to make a claim, that much I know through my work and studies.
     
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    The history of scientific theory as propaganda is quite extensive. Remember how the world was flat until people like Ferdinand Magellan proved that theory as false?
     
  12. Iolo

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    What sort of two-headed nutter could imagine such a conspiracy, and how does it imagine such a conspiracy could be organised, and why? Certify the poor weirdoes, for their own good! They are harming your country terribly!
     
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    Comparing scientific methods from 500 yrs ago to today as a scientific threshhold is a waste of bandwidth. I.e., medical science, one certainly wouldn't apply past medical science mistakes to today's medical advice from a doctor.
     
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    Well at least you have a theory

    Pity you have no confirmation of this
     
  15. skeptic-f

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    Actually, most educated ancient people since the Ancient Greeks knew the world was round (although you should remember that quite a smaller percentage of people were educated) and roughly what size it was. The reason Columbus had trouble financing his voyage was that he was basing his idea of how large the world was on faulty calculations that only gave it about 55% of its correct equatorial distance. That's why it was the badly educated Spanish monarchs who financed him - everyone else thought he would sail off into the World Ocean (combined Atlantic/Pacific) and die. Magellan's contribution was to confirm the idea completely by circumnavigating the globe.
     
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    You have been ignoring basic laws of thermodynamics behind the well established data.

    You have not done any work.

    You believe that it has been voted almost unanimously that man is the main cause.

    I need not to do any work to believe in that.

    All you need is to follow your feelings.

    You are no different from other religuos fanatics of AWG.
     
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    I bet they were are lot more educated than you are. You have no finances to finance anything.
     
  18. PatriotNews

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    Do you mind a short test so I can see if you are allowed to post a comment?

    The Sun.
     
  19. Windigo

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    I'd day that while we have better technology from a methodological and ethical standpoint we are far worse than 500 years ago.

    Newton considered himself a failure because above all else he was an alchemist. He regarded his life's work as a failure because he failed to create a philosopher's stone.

    In the post normal science of today Newton would have simply ignored the scientific method and made some fraudulent claims, probably using computer models and/or faulty statistics, and told people that he had created philosophers stone but wouldn't let anyone see it or he would say that he was very close to creating a philosophers stone and only needed a little more money from the government.
     
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    Actually with the CERN experiment alone the Svenmark hypothesis is supported by more empirical evidence than AGW. To this day there is not one single experiment has been done or can ever be done to show that Plass was correct or that the atmosphere has a 3-5X positive feedback both of which are the pillars upon which AGW stands.
     
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    And as for the actic ice extent causeing the snow

    ahem....

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    What Snow?
     
  23. Windigo

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    This snow

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    The eastern united states is enjoying the tail end of and ENSO with the warm el nino waters finally having made their trip around the globe settling into the Caribbean. The rest of the world however isn't so lucky.
     
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    Excellent analogy.

    You cannot find a single warmist who'd know about Newton's and Einsten's et al scientific method which is the foundation of all today's and tomorrow's technology.

    That's why no matter how hard fascists I mean overwhelming majorities of the scienific community push their methods, no matter if all society is fooled and enslaved, in the end the society will find itself well behind another society with a lot more advanced technology. AWG believers are not any different from Islamists. Overwhelming majorities of the scienific community are pushing American society backwards in technological and ethical perspectives.


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  25. Iolo

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    How wicked all these scientists are for not just obeying the two-headed nutters as Nature intended but just going on with peer-reviewed, tested science. It wasn't like that in the good old Salem witch-hunting days!
     
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