Is "global warming" driving the very snowy winters we've seen in recent years?

there has been no global warming in the past 15 years so I doubt it. Are you referring to regional warming perhaps?

 

I am patient we will have more bizarre weather events, this time it will be America's turn and then beliefs will change See while things are only happening in the rest of the world America can scoff and they simply refuse to believe because "I am all right Jack" They dismiss killing heat waves in Russia, monster typhoons, record droughts, unbelievable floods

Because it is not happening there


But those things are all just "weather events" until of course, it is something like a cold snap and then they can say "Ah! Global Warming is not happening!"

 

thanks for putting up a graph that prove my point Bower and disproves the original post, the recent snow could not have been caused by warming since we have been in a period of no warming for the last 15.

Now it has not been warming for almost 15 years but it has been warming since around 1700. In fact from 1695 to 1735 the temperature in Central England rose by 4 Fahrenheit degrees. Compare that to the 1 F° in the whole of the 20th century.

We all know climatic patterns are constantly changing. But they have been changing for 4,567 million years, and they will go on changing long after mankind is nothing more than a memory. The fact of climate change does not tell us the cause of climate change and your dream worldwide government and all it's rules and regulations will not stop the climate from doing whatever it wants to do

 

Missed the point of the graph?? Don't worry others will see it.

But what drives this change? Like underwear climate does not change by itself something must affect it to cause the change

And this is where the debate normally stops and I just get the repeated

'coz it does..........

 

Your graph has been totally discredited by the NASA and NOAA global surface temperature plots, Bird.

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There has been no discernible temperature increase in the measured (actual weather station data) values of annual mean global surface temperatures since 1997. The temperature today (see annual mean, below) is less than it was in 1997.

Here is the actual truth!

Source: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20120119/

 

Do any of the "warmies" in our group wish to explain why we have more ice in the Arctic now than we did in 1979?

Could the Arctic actually be cooling during the winter months and not warming?

Heaven forbid!

 

Yep! Blog is wrong

For a start that pic is about SEA ICE

Second the colours are misleading

But from the SAME site as the blog you quoted obtained those pictures is this animation of the loss of multi-year ice
[ame]http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/multiyear.ice.quikscat.mov[/ame]

 

you are mistaken, Bird.

The loss of Arctic sea ice is no problem.

The extent of sea ice in the Arctic has been first increasing and then decreasing for millions and millions of years.

By the way, what causes the loss of Arctic sea ice?

Are you aware the Arctic sea ice is melting from below and not from above its water level due?

Are you aware this loss is due to a very natural process that is called the "Thermohaline Circulation"?

 

Heat gotta come from somewhere - so what is your explanation for the increase in heat hmmmmmmm?

Are you aware that the temperature of the oceans are rising with increasing CO2 and that we would expect the ice to melt from below just as it is doing?

In fact the ice melting from below supports global warming rather than solar cause

 

Not necessarily, all heat (besides geothermal) originates from the sun. The ocean currents are driven indirectly by the sun and the rotation of the earth. The statement that the ocean's temperature rises with increasing CO2 is still in the development stage.

Therefore the cause of ice melting from the bottom (if that really is the case) could be explained by global warming, increased solar activity, both or neither. There's just not enough info to come to a conclusion, let alone alter the world's lifestyle.

 

You are mistaken, Bird.

In fact the ice is melting from below DOES NOT support global warming.

In all due respect, your knowledge of climate science is woefully inadequate.

Actually, the fact the ice is melting from below supports the purely natural and well-known cause of "Thermohaline Circulation".

You don't know that that is do you? ... Maybe this will help.

NASA: The Thermohaline Circulation (The Great Ocean Conveyor Belt)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3niR_-Kv4SM"]NASA: The Thermohaline Circulation (The Great Ocean Conveyor Belt) [720p] - YouTube[/ame]

 

Are you living in one of the parts of the USA that had very unseasonal very warm weather this week? How's that fit into your "no evidence for global warming" theory?

 

That would be called "anecdotal evidence for global warming"

 

Ha-Ha!

Please provide reliable sources for these assertions.

Without reliable sources, these comments are mere speculation and unsupported conclusions on your part!

 

Okay we have solar satellites and observatories and do you think any of those would have missed the fact that the solar output had increased enough to cause the current warming?

 

Know about Thermohaline Circulation also know something has to be changing IT"S temperature - or are you trying to tell me that all of a sudden it just warmed up more than usual and melted the poles?



yeah suuuuuuure!