Is the Catholic concept of Purgatory more accurate than heaven vs hell?

Didn't vote. Any way you slice it...all manmade lies.

 

Then how can some hypnotized people know other languages.......
when regressed in time to other lifetimes?

Now I admit that the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research could well indicate the existence of
fallen angels capable of giving humans information that they could not possibly know.......
when humans are open to their influence and perhaps hypnosis does open that kind of door......
but the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research does prove something.............
although exactly what her research indicates......
could certainly be debated.

Her own research as well as what she did with Dr. Chet Snow.......
I read two of her books and she was into something that could not be
merely hallucination.

http://www.nupathz.com/whatif/Progressing_the_Future.htm

 

Some of the most gifted people.......
face some of the biggest temptations........
Cephas / Peter whacked off some guy's ear.........
probably only because the guy tried to move out of the way......
because Cephas / Peter was probably trying to kill him!

King David committed adultery and had Bathsheba's husband murdered.......

Even Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus... .when he was offered the world.......
he could have accepted the Tempter's offer...........
and he could have done so for relatively good reasons........
in comparison to why I do what I've been doing all these years!

Matthew 4:8

¶
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

 

How would you personally answer the following poll question?

As you can see I am one of the five who went with.....

Fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.

5 vote(s)
35.7%

The implications of this question.... and the new evidence that scientists are discovering.......
are off the scale....... even for our economy.........

Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?


The first Intelligence began in.....?

1. 
   Carbon based life less than 5 billion years ago, on earth.
   7 vote(s)
   50.0%
2. 
   Carbon based life in outer space.
   2 vote(s)
   14.3%
3. *
   Fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.
   5 vote(s)
   35.7%
4. 
   This is a new question that I am only now facing.
   0 vote(s)
   0.0%

If you are into the economic implications of all this you may kind of like page two of this discussion:

Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

 

They don’t.

 

Do you think the idea "everlasting death" is not imaginary? Everything what is today "physics" was for example once meta-physics and/or not existing at all. And you are on your own only able to live in a "familiar" universe - a universe where your existence is possible. To make your existence here impossible was hundred, thousand years ago possible too. But this did not happen - otherwise you would not be real.

 

huh?

This is incoherent. Try again please.

 

You're a hell of a debater. There are quite a few people, doctors mostly, that are doing regressive hypnosis and they're reporting the same thing - correlating experiences of the subjects. These thousands of subjects reporting the same thing from all different countries and religions and those without religion. You have no evidence that they are hallucinating.

 

of course they are hallucinating. Claiming these quacks are regressing their patients into past lives is ****ing moronic, and bat **** crazy.

 

You're grasping at the lowest branch (drugs) because it's the easiest for you to grasp.
Why would drugged people experience the same thing? I've had operations requiring anesthesia (drugs) and most people who have gone under don't remember dreaming or anything. The drug hits them and the next thing they remember is waking up with no sense that any time has passed.
There's an interesting site open to nurses, but you can read their posts. Most are hospice and Long Term Care nurse who have seen a thing or two.
http://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/whats-your-best-108202-page175.html

 

Like I said you're a hell of a debater. No counter argument, no progression of the subject matter, just empty perjoratives.

 

You seem confused. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A handful of quacks claiming to have regressed patients into previous lives, with exactly no evidence to support this, only requires a simple dismissal in order to win the debate.

 

Claiming they are quacks just proves my point. Claiming there are only a handful - likewise and it just proves that you don'y know what you're talking about - hence the empty perjorative masquerading in your mind as debate.

 

no it doesn't, it refutes it.

Sorry, but there are only a handful of claims made by quacks stating they have regressed their patients into previous lives. It's ****ing moronic, and deserves the scorn it is receiving.

When you can actually present evidence of this occurring, that will be a different matter.

 

You might like the NDE account of a Jewish man who did not believe in life after death at all......
until his NDE.

Then he began to study what Judaism taught about the afterlife......
and it does sound a lot like the Catholic idea of Purgatory.


https://www.near-death.com/religion/judaism/don-morse.html

 

yes, we have already established that hallucinations are powerful things. No evidence of purgatory, or any other nonsense you keep claiming though.

 

You have no evidence it was a hallucination.

 

brain chemistry. And, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Claiming these hallucinations are out of body experiences, or that quacks claim to have regressed patients into a previous life, is beyond absurd, and requires an ABUNDANCE of evidence to try and prove such a moronic claim.

 

I have to admit that I can understand why most poster on this forum might wish for it
to be merely a hallucination.

It seems that being deeply religious does not give us an immediate "get out of Purgatory Free" card.

This particular NDE, to my thinking, is evidence that if we approach life with fear......
and believe that others are out to get us......
our fears will come to haunt us.

Also:
John 5:45

"Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust."


https://www.near-death.com/religion/judaism/orthodox-nde.html

The Near-Death Experience of an Orthodox Jew

 

Nobody has ever said anything when they are dead.

 

Anybody actually understand why it is called a near death experience? Could it perhaps be that there has never been any return from the actual death experience?

 

Again, you have no evidence of any of that.

 

Right. I guess you’ve never heard of a neurologist? Lol

 

lol

 

So does that mean you haven't?