Is the NRA partially to blame for the Charlottesville violence?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, Aug 18, 2017.

  1. tom444

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    Oh but I am right.

    And this is ridiculous:

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    So is this:

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    None of which makes any difference in the matter. The degree of ridiculousness does nothing to change the fact that something is constitutionally protected. You take issue with those who are carrying AR-15 carbines openly and legally, but your issue is devoid of any legal merit. It is no different than claiming to hate something just because.
     
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    Blah blah blah, slavery was legal to.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Now you are comparing the legal carrying of firearms with slavery? Pray tell just how much desperation is there on the part of yourself, to disparage those that actually exercise their constitutional rights in a legal manner?
     
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    Just because something is legal doesn't mean it isn't ridiculous. Obviously. Another thing that's ridiculous is you defending such nonsense.
     
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    No. You're not.

    What's ridiculous is you getting your panties in a twist over an avatar.
     
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    And yet there has been no effort on the part of yourself to even attempt and explain why it is being perceived and regarded as being ridiculous. Absolutely nothing has been presented on the part of yourself, except for scorn, ridicule, insults, and veiled threats of violence.

    Pray tell why?
     
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    What I find tragic is that you really don't comprehend that what is ridiculous is your behavior.

    You have no factual justification for your position, so you try to browbeat, denigrate, and bully people into complying with your desires. <Rule 2>
     
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    If you need to have it explained to, you're lost.
     
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    That's right, I can barely hold in my utter contempt for someone who would walk the streets of an American city decked out like a soldier in a combat zone. <Rule 2>
     
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    Allow myself to be concerned about being lost, and get to actually explaining the perceived ridiculousness of the matter being referred to by yourself.

    And what is the source of this contempt? Is there some sort of justification for it? Or are you simply in desperate need of having something in your life to hate, and have chosen this group as being the recipient of such? If they were not a convenient target for such, would baloney sandwiches have been selected instead?
     
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    ACLU confirms
     
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    Blaming the NRA for this is like blaming greed on monopoly. Utterly without merit and nonsensical. It's just more SJW trying to find something to be outraged over. And even if you could find a link between them. Not one single person was shot by the protesters. Your argument lacks intelligence, fact, or simple common sense.
     
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    Simply more irrational hatred for the sake of having something to hate, solely because of an inability to go through life without actually having something to hate.
     
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    I have been here a while now. And whenever someone new comes to the forum—particularly when they have an anti-gun viewpoint—I often wait to see if they say anything worthwhile to respond to.

    Sometimes I do so in vain.

    So I came back again thinking that the sheer volume of recent posts must contain something of substance, and all I find of recent note is one person who continuously thinks flame bait insults is the proper way to have a “debate.”

    When this happens, it usually means the person engaging in it believes they are the smartest person they have ever met, and anyone who disagrees with them is rightly deserving of such contempt.

    I don’t always (well actually I rarely) agree with Galileo, but I appreciate his attempts to engage in an actual debate. Please don’t tell me he is the only one on the other side of the hill willing to discuss an issue like an adult.

    So is there anyone left on the “anti-gun” side who is willing to actually debate something, or are we merely doomed to the mindless repetition of 4th grade level schoolyard name calling?

    Oh, if only the button said "post intelligent reply" instead of "post reply"....

    Perhaps I need to finally find out where this “ignore” button is that I have heard others talk about.

    The race to the bottom that some engage in never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    Again, placing blame on NRA, firearms, law abiding people for the acts of criminals is ridiculous.
     
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    If an actual debate is desired, such can be done. Support for greater firearm-related freedoms on the part of myself stems from witnessing numerous logical shortcomings going unnoticed by those supporting various restrictions, shortcomings that doom the proposal to failure when it must be implemented outside of a vacuum, and vulnerable to developments that were never foreseen during the drafting phase. Were it not for the complete absence of logical thinking skills, support on the part of myself could very well lay elsewhere.

    That said, if an intelligent debate on the merits of firearm-related restrictions is indeed desired, such a discussion can be attempted. Set the location and ground rules, and it shall be seen what can be had from a genuine effort at making a point.
     
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    Evidence of absence of a genuine response to being criticized.
     
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    Yah know, a big fat oaf of ex jock tries to intimidate a small female, she pulls a 9mm and the last thing to cross his puny mind before her bullet is to wonder how a cute lil thing like her could get the better over him.
     
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    BZZZT False!

    http://www.factcheck.org/2017/08/charlottesville-stand-order/

    http://www.snopes.com/were-police-told-stand-down-charlottesville/

     
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    Again, demonstrate the evidence of treason that supposedly exists and is being referred to. Exactly what treasonous acts have been committed in this matter?
     
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    America is a union, where all are created equal. Any attempt to upset that balance, like setting up a confederacy, systematically treating others as less than equal, etc., is treasonous.
     
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    Nah bro. Trying to restrict the second amendment is treason. If I want to carry a firearm I damn well will and to hell with how you feel about it
     
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    Which ultimately means nothing in this discussion.

    Going by such logic, the black lives matter organization is engaged in treason, because their message states outright that the lives of all other races do not matter.

    What you define as an act of treason does not match the legal definition of treason.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

    18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


    Explain again, how does treating others as being less than equal, amount to an act of treason?

    What do you intend to do if such should occur? Are you going to picket with a sign? Are you going to scream and cry incoherently? Are you going to commit felony assault by lobbing rocks and molotov cocktails at them? Or are you going to shoot them?

    At the very least, you are threatening violence against others. Yet another violation of forum rules.
     

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