Is the Rabbi correct that one third of Bernie supporters will NOT vote for Hillary?

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  1. DennisTate

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    The Donald's courageous statements about The Fed
    are going to gain him a lot of support from the left.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/news/economy/donald-trump-federal-reserve-audit-the-fed/

    What would a President Trump mean for the Fed?

    ............
     
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    Yes.. here are comments on the motivations of The Donald ...
    from a Bernie supporter:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/459363-what-motivated-donald-enter-race-president-3.html

    Thread: What motivated The Donald to enter the race for President?

     
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    I think that's going to be the case with a lot of Bernie's supporters. He has gotten a lot of younger people excited about the election process. But Hillary is not going to be able to do the same thing. For one thing, they are just young, not lemmings like the typical Democrat who is following orders because "it's Hillary's turn". And for another, younger people are very good at spotting a fraud, and Hillary is the biggest fraud of them all, even bigger than the Donald.
     
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    Even before tramp's latest meltdown, 8.5 of 10 bernie-bot (per Gallup) planned to vote for Hillary. Gary Johnson may now skim a percent off that, but almost none are going to vote for an orange faced bigot bankrupt failure.
     
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    No, about 75% of Bernie supporters will never vote for Hillary.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...... the Rabbi felt that it was at least fifty percent!

    The way that Bernie supporters were treated by Hillary's team.... could turn out to be the deciding factor in this election?????!
     
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    Unless they do their homework......
    and come to basically agree with The Donald's motivation for entering the presidential race in the first place......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/459363-what-motivated-donald-enter-race-president.html
    What motivated The Donald to enter the race for President?
    Is outrage over how politicians waste money a major reason why The Donald
    entered the Presidential race?
     
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    Something happened in over a thousand towns in America during the Great Depression that
    young Bernie supporters should become more aware of..........
    because it seems as if FDR was pressured by ordinary Americans....
    into making "The New Deal."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...urrencies-finance-films-address-problems.html

    New Age Communities can print local currencies finance films that address problems?!
    At this time I tend to believe that New Age Groups may be the most likely to successfully initiate local currencies and use them to finance film projects in which homeless people could become actors playing the role of homeless people.... .which could easily finance their buying or renting homes????!!!!

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717
     
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    Trump will lose for the very simple reason that he is a radical. Radicals do not win in American politics right or left. Look at Goldwater in 1964 and McGovern in 1972.

    And there is also the fact that Hillary is not the Machiavellian and incompetent crone that she's been made out to be. Once people realize that she didn't REALLY murder Vince Foster there is going to be a certain amount of sympathy for her, sympathy which Trump's ongoing shenanigans are unlikely to garner for him
     
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    I admit I know very little on American politics but I dont get how Bernie voters will prefer Trump over Clinton...., if we can't get an ultra liberal might as well go Facist ?
     
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    And you think Bernie supporters are not only going to go out of their way to purposely ignore all the red flags Trump seems to throw out daily about racism and authoritarianism but are then going to become outraged over how government "wastes" their money on things like education and health care? The very things Bernie wanted to spend MORE on? Yeh, right, the eternal conservative hope, someday we'll all wake up and become conservatives, no matter how much that involves screwing ourselves and everything else we'd like to see happen
     
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    I have one daughter who was a Democrat, that surprised me yesterday, when she told me she was voting for Trump.
     
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    But..... now that The Donald has secured the nomination.....
    he is free to come out with some interesting numbers regarding an INCREASE in LEGAL immigration from Mexico and the rest of South America......

    he was forced to keep his campaign simple...... while he was going for that nomination........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449323-donald-trump-campaign-film-cartel-land.html
    The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."
    Drug cartels seem to have a great deal of power over the elected officials in Mexico.

    ..........

    also.......
    he now needs to get more specific on exactly what he wants to do in regards to......

    http://economiccollapsenews.com/201...rve-criticizes-ted-cruz-for-missing-key-vote/
    Donald Trump wants to audit the Federal Reserve, criticizes Ted Cruz for missing key vote
     
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    And now I have got to attempt to add an image to this discussion......

    Ok.... I got the image in here... but I don't know how to make it larger...... so if you will right click on the image.....

    and choose.... open in new tab... you will see these statistics that indicate that Hillary cannot win this election... but
    Bernie can.....

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    According to National Polls
    Bernie vs Hillary and Trump

    The Presidential Elections.....

    DemocratsL 30% US voters

    Republican: 23% US voters

    Independents: 43% US voters

    ......
    Democrats for Bernie 9%

    Republicans for Bernie 1%

    Independents for Bernie 35%

    ......

    Democrats for Hillary 20%

    Republicans for Hillary 1%

    Independents for Hillary 3%

    ......

    Democrats for Trump 1%

    Republicans for Trump 20%

    Independents for Trump 7%

    ....

    Other 2%

    .....

    Bernie wins as a Democrat or Independent.

    #StayInTheRace Bernie!
     
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    You are pretty much in line with what Rabbi Praver thinks.......

    The implication is that this trend could.......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/463304-can-bernie-support-flip-dnc.html
    Can Bernie support FLIP the DNC?

    - - - Updated - - -


    Americans know that The Donald is really a RINO....

    and is actually somewhat moderate.....

    the mainstream media in most nations make more money exaggerating their accusations toward him.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/449323-donald-trump-campaign-film-cartel-land.html
    The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."

    Drug cartels seem to have a great deal of power over the elected officials in Mexico.

    If...… The Donald's supporters will view this film and become more well informed a lot of good things could result from this.

    For one thing..... this could put pressure on Mexico that results in the release of Dr. Jose Mireles!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel_Land
    My wife is from Ecuador and I would love to see The Donald come out with a plan to significantly INCREASE LEGAL immigration from Mexico and South America after that wall is built.

    This might be a great way to steal much of the thunder that his opponents seem to have at this time?
     
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    You should check out what England has turned into since it voted leave ;)
     
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    Yes.. things are looking pretty good so far......

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ant-hoax-or-is-this-the-calm-before-the-next/

    Was Brexit fear a giant hoax or is this the calm before the next storm?
     
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    its like UKIP they draw people from both labour and tory.
     
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    Well I am not going to get into that in any detail here but we have lost our triple A rating by two notches which is expected to be for the medium to long term, the bank of England is playing with money to keep us together, we are expecting a significant recession the effects of which will take a little time to come and we are expecting the B of E to reduce interest rates. Due to the decrease in the value of the pound imports are going to cost a lot more. On the racist level we saw from police reports an increase of 57% in the first three days after the Referendum calling EU migrants 'vermin' and even children were not left out of the racist assault which was directed both towards colour and those from the EU. Homophobia also increased - the far right do not like gays. England is being torn apart while Scotland builds up friends. Westminster is desperately trying to find a way in which it can undo the harm done but the best they are likely to come up with is a similar situation but with us with no say, hence we will seriously have lost from brexit which ever way it goes. There is now even talk that Brexit may not have been legal as it was not done for the good of the country but rather for political gain of the Tories. It looks to me like the people of England have done the most destructive thing they ever have to themselves and most of them were so ill informed they were not aware what they were doing. Most of the rest were either racists or political opportunists. It may well cause the break up of the UK as well.
     
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    This could be a good time to take a serious look at the history of
    central banking policy in the USA.





    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm
    Melvin Sickler:

    ................

    The Fed.......... is set up in such a way that it is extremely useful in causing significant boom and bust cycles..... which tend to break unions. To a segment of the population strong unions are one of the greatest evils in America and the whole world.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...national-wealth-must-occur-order-finance.html
    A massive reevaluation of national wealth must occur in order to finance....
    ..... the shift over to a truly green and sustainable economy!
     
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    I am not exactly sure where that fits in here, the Bank of England is talking about reducing not increasing interest rates which in any case are at about half a percent to try and keep us afloat. The UK, in particular England is disintegrating. The Leave people did not even have any plans, they did not expect to win. They were playing a game. But the damage is done even though all the talk now is to try and make it so that the vote never happened. The exposure of the latent xenophobia in England has to be deeply concerning. Migrants and black people report being terrified....and as I said there is now a very strong possibility of the UK breaking up and just being the Union of England and Wales.
     
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    Their own country again, with a sense of pride, and the resolve to not turn into a third world hellhole. :)
     
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    Thank you for this analysis.

    I do hope that low interest rates are continued and recognized as perhaps the number one way to fight inflation......

    because high interest rates are themselves..... perhaps the number one cause of inflation and the devaluation of the Canadian dollar
    since 1974.

    On the plus side..... a messed up central banking system that tends to break unions does have the positive effect of dampening the
    economy which does tend to protect the environment..... at least somewhat.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...e-elliott-trudeau-save-world-environment.html
    Did P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau save the world environment?
    This is actually a quite serious question.

    P. M. Trudeau made an error back in 1974, that may well come to be understood as one of the most important mistakes ever made by a political leader.

    When P. M. Pierre Elliott Trudeau took Canada off the gold standard, (which incidentally had to be done for many valid reasons), a miscalculation was made that is the number one reason why our national debt has spiraled out of control.

    But..... there is a very good side to this because all of us know that we humans have been in a somewhat similar mentality to our ancestors who shot, boiled, barbecued, roasted and fried passenger pigeons into extinction.

    We are highly prone to OVER Consumptionism............. I addressed part of the background issues back in my 2006 provincial level campaign as an independent.
     
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    I did not bother to search this entire thread...but just skimming it I am amazed there seem to be no NDE statements.
     
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