Islam and Islamophobia

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by stan1990, Dec 3, 2018.

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so when you were talking about the Spartans going on crusades you were talking about them going to war. Not all wars are related to religion.
     
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    What is the deception?
     
  3. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I'm curious what deception Robert Spencer is doing.

    I think I asked that before and didn't get an answer.

    Actually neither one, can be called deception
     
  4. stan1990

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    You can view what is deception in Merriam Webster dictionary
     
  5. stan1990

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    You could read about the Spartan crusades against their enemies in the history book and all over the internet. You don't need to wait for me to tell you about it. In general, Crusades, the word can be used in order to refer for too many things.
     
  6. stan1990

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    When I have time, I will write to you about the deceptive Robert Spencer one day or another. I don't like to rush things.
     
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  7. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Not in the way you posted it regarding Spencer and Choudary.

    Both of them are pretty accurate.

    I'm curious what you meant.
     
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  8. stan1990

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    They are accurate for you. However, they are deceptive for me
     
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    In what way.
     
  10. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well yeah it is but it has **** to do with Islam, so bringing it up was for what reason exactly?
     
  11. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    That one perplexes me. Something is either accurate or it isn't. Perspective does not change that.
     
  12. yasureoktoo

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    That's what I thought, and am waiting for what Spencer and Choudary said that wasn't accurate.
     
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    He's just fundamentally wrong concerning issues such as the relationship between terrorism and Islam.

    Let's remember that the regimes of Iraq, Syria, Egypt and some other countries have been worthy of serious opposition. They're certainly worse than the regime that the US decided required our own revolution. The US (GWBush) put Syria on the "regime change" list in 2001.

    Let's remember that those who suffer most from terrorism are Muslims.

    Let's remember that ISIS is being reduced by Muslims.

    Let's remember that the entire ME accounts for 17% of world Islam, and that terrorists are a tiny percent of that 17%, many radicalized by opposition to dictatorships by regimes that are quite rationally considered criminal.
     
  14. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Law of averages argument huh? Let's not forget most of Islam doesn't think the Califatists are wrong.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    It might not be accurate for him in his reality.
     
  16. yasureoktoo

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    So you just said absolutely nothing regarding the question.

    I asked you what spencer said about Islam that was wrong.
     
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    I really don't think we are concerned with anyone's fantasy.

    I am just wondering what Spencer said about Islam that was wrong.
     
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  18. Polydectes

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    I'm still hung up in how facts change from one person to the next.

    It's like when people say "my truth."
     
  19. yasureoktoo

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    Fact's don't change,
    They are either true or not true..
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Well yeah, it makes me wonder why people say things like "my truth."
     
  21. yasureoktoo

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    The reality is that Spencer is watched closely by every Muslim group on earth, just waiting for him to make a mistake, or false accusation, just so they can splatter it all over the news and internet.
    Look what Spencer said...
    But to no avail.
    He has to watch what he says to protect his own reputation.
     
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  22. yasureoktoo

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    That's their business.
    You will never see Spencer saying that.
    why are you being evasive.
    If Spencer is such a liar, it should be easy to find something.
    At least something to base your own claims on.
     
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  23. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't even know who Spencer is.
     
  24. yasureoktoo

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    Possibly,
    It seems you jumped on the bandwagon, so I thought it was you.
     
  25. Polydectes

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    I think you're confused. I was talking about this statement
    Something is either accurate or isn't.
     

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