Islam and Islamophobia

Don't know where you got that idea, but it is wrong.
They brought syphilis, typhoid, small pox, and a slew of others the natives had no immunity for.
They even brought blankets as gifts, infected with small pox

 

I don't need to study Islam in order to recognize the intolerant terrorist behavior it promotes.

 

This is true, Just as an observer you and anyone for that matter, you can scratch your head, and wonder,
why the fu-k are these religious people killing everyone.

I started reading about Islam after 9/11, out of curiosity,
Not just the Qur'an, which says virtually nothing, but the sunnah, where the religious doctrine really is.
and when you read the doctrine, it will really, really, really blow your mind.

It is so fu-ked up, you'll wonder, why wasn't this made illegal years ago.

 

This "Spanish inquisition only killed 800" is either disingenuous or historically ignorant. The inquisition in Europe was responsible for the death of many hundreds of thousands - if not millions.

The 1000 years of horror under Christianity was exactly that ... 1000 years of horror.

Not that this excuses Islam - in any way shape or form - but, Christianity was just as bad .. same sht .. different pile.

 

No,
You are just trying to make an excuse, and changing the subject to another religion.
excuse number 4

This is not about Buddhism, Mayan, Druid, Greek Mythology, Christianity, wiccan, Norse, or any of the thousands of other religions.
This is about Islam.

 

I did not make any excuse for anything and nor was I changing the subject. I was responding to a falsehood and that is that.

You are just whining because your desperate attempts to paint Christianity as some shining star on the hill have once again been dashed.

If you want to complain to someone about bringing another religion into the discussion. complain to the person that brought it into the discussion.

 

Syphilis was probably the Indians gift to the invaders. Other diseases wiped out the native population which the Spanish wanted to preserve and enslave - not exterminate. Keep in mind that Spains model for imperial conquest, and most other things, was Islam.

... Disaster of this magnitude suggests epidemic disease. In the view of Ramenofsky and Patricia Galloway, an anthropologist at the University of Texas, the source of the contagion was very likely not Soto's army but its ambulatory meat locker: his 300 pigs. Soto's force itself was too small to be an effective biological weapon. Sicknesses like measles and smallpox would have burned through his 600 soldiers long before they reached the Mississippi. But the same would not have held true for the pigs, which multiplied rapidly and were able to transmit their diseases to wildlife in the surrounding forest. ...The fact is that what scientists call zoonotic disease was little known in the Americas. Swine alone can disseminate anthrax, brucellosis, leptospirosis, taeniasis, trichinosis, and tuberculosis. Pigs breed exuberantly and can transmit diseases to deer and turkeys. Only a few of Soto's pigs would have had to wander off to infect the forest....

"That's one reason whites think of Indians as nomadic hunters," says Russell Thornton, an anthropologist at the University of California at Los Angeles. "Everything else-all the heavily populated urbanized societies-was wiped out."...

One reason is that Indians were fresh territory for many plagues, not just one. Smallpox, typhoid, bubonic plague, influenza, mumps, measles, whooping cough-all rained down on the Americas in the century after Columbus. ... In Indian New England, Neal Salisbury, a historian at Smith College, wrote in Manitou and Providence (1982), family and friends gathered with the shaman at the sufferer's bedside to wait out the illness-a practice that "could only have served to spread the disease more rapidly." ...
Charles C. Mann, "1491," Atlantic Monthly, March 2002.

90% of the native population was gone by the time the English started settling N. America.

 

All done in the name of christ. Often with a cross on their shields

 

There was a papal bull legalizing torture of "heretics" - anyone who disagreed with the Church's dogma of the day. It doesn't get much more fked up than that.

 

LOLOL

I'm not painting Christianity as anything.
I am discussing Islam.

 

Then discuss Islam

 

LOLOL

What planet are you on.

I don't defend religions, unless someone makes false claims about them.
Islam included.

 

You sure got upset when I corrected a false claim in relation to Christianity

 

I don't get upset about anything,
and what was this false claim you made.
There are so many, it is hard to keep track.

 

So you abandoned the discussion you started to talk about history?

 

Name one ... Mr. Strawman

 

Wonder what the next verse said-
11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me.........
and
36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

So your evidence you give top billing to justify your views of the violence in Christianity is a purposeful misrepresentation.

Your need to misrepresent the Christian doctrine only strengthens Gabriel or Stein's arguments.
Sure, tortured and twisted interpretations of Christian doctrine can be used to justify violence. Problem with Islam is that a literal interpretation justifies violence.

 

How and where, did you come up with this BS.
I never saw Mark Steyn, but Brigitte Gabriel and Robert Spencer are people the west should listen to.
Gabriel makes a lot of her speeches based on first hand experience.
She is somewhat versed in Islam, Probably getting better, since I've seen anything she has done.
Robert spencer is one of the finest Islamic scholars the west has to offer.
and get off your high horse, just because you don't like it, does not mean it is hate speech.
Islam is a hate crime, If you knew anything about the religion, you would know that.
and I'm not sure what his favorite verse is, but you can probably bet it's not in the Qur'an.
His favorites change with the people he is debating with, and he uses their books.

 

"Was" for 1000s years in a time when the Catholic Church dictated what was and was not Christian doctrine, because the people couldn't read the bible. Invention of the printing press, widespread translation and publication of the bible and the spread of literacy put an end to that. The Christian doctrine in the bible is an inherent part of Christianity. The **** the catholic church dreamed up is not. That would be Catholic doctrine.

 

Actually Christianity was never as bad.
Some supposed Christians were pretty bad,
But the religion never was.

 

Catholic doctrine is part of Christianity - and in fact at the time it was most of Christianity.

Protestants were not much better .. Martin Luther in his treatise "On the Jews and their Lies"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

You appeal to the Bible but, the fact of the matter is that the main teachings of Jesus are not part of Christian doctrine.

 

I hate to rain on your parade, but the teachings of Jesus are Christian doctrine.

 

Catholic doctrine is part of Christianity, just like the snake handlers are,
Like
Richard Butler was .

Like every power hungry villain wrote his own.

 

Some of the teachings of Jesus is Christian doctrine ... some is not. Some of Christian doctrine is an anathema to the teachings of Jesus.

 

Just because you speak in gibberish - does not make that gibberish true