So, when God murdered the first born of the Egyptians, what was it that we missed? When God told the Israelites to invade an already occupied land and commit genocide, what was it that we missed? When God tortured David's son for seven days to punish David, what did we miss? When God set down rules for enslavement, what exactly, did we miss?
How about the reason WHY God killed the firstborn of the Egyptians, because they were holding the nation of Israel in slavery, which is another thing atheists get butthurt about when it suits them. Unless it's the Jews who are being held captive, then it's okay. You missed the part about the Canaanites having attacked the Israelites a few chapters earlier. Evidently you didn't read the story or you would know. Want to tell me again about how you have read the Bible?
So you think that children should be punished for what their parents do? God had no other alternative to killing kids? Uh, you mean after they came into their land? Yeah, no, I didn't miss that. I wouldn't want tens of thousands of people invading my home either. Childish. Respond like an adult who can actually prove their claims.
I'm willing to bet that you are an abortion advocate. As it is, though, taking the first born of the Egyptians was of great harm to the adults, not the kids. Well, it wasn't their home, another thing you missed. Do you really KNOW the story? Yes or no? I think you're BS-ing.
Nope, try again to obfuscate, it won't work. How about you stop changing the subject? Did God need to kill those children? Oh, see, I thought it was since they were living there. Yes, I do.
Nope, just trying to see if you were as big a hypocrite as most atheists are, complaining about the nonexistent god killing children while you support that very thing in your own time. Yes, He did need to do that, He had tried everything else. Some people are just slow on the uptake. Another small detail you missed. Then you know the answer.
Regardless of what my views are, you seem to be claiming that God shouldn't be held to a higher standard than a human like me. Is that right? Oh, really? Did he try, let's see, just simply teleporting the Hebrews out of there? Is that not within the power of God? God can create and change the world at whim, but the only way he could possibly change the Hebrews enslavement was by throwing plagues at the Egyptians? You're saying that the Canaanites were not living in Canaan before the Israelites came? Just because you can make excuses for someone's behavior doesn't mean that those justifications are valid morally. I'm sure that Hitler had quite a few justifications for what he did, but that doesn't make his actions any less abhorrent.
Anthropomorphizing the god that doesn't exist, are we? Who's going to hold him to any standard? You? Like David Copperfield? This ain't magic, it's supernatural. Even God follows his own natural laws, not being a man, after all. Scooping them up in a tornado could have been messy. Didn't say that, I said the land didn't belong to them. If you had read that book you'd know that. Your lack of historical perspective is what's abhorrent. Those were tough and bloody times, and you look at it with your 21st century rose colored glasses.
Muslim 19:4366 - "I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim" Do not even try to argue that the Hadiths cannot be verified. Bukhari and Muslim are the two most trusted Hadiths in Islam, and that's all that matters.
Sure, I see no reason why I couldn't. So, you're limiting God, got it. What exactly are these limits of God, since you seem to know them so well? God can create the Universe, create man, stop the sun in the sky from moving, flood the entire Earth, give visions to men, lift men up to heaven, plague men... but he can't pick man up and place them somewhere else? That doesn't seem like "magic" to me anymore than any of the other feats that he does. No, you said it wasn't their "home". That could mean many things. I'm looking at the actions of God, not of human beings. Are you saying that God's morality changes with humanity's?
Sure, in America or Western Europe (with the occasional terrorist thrown into the mix). But what about Africa? What about Russia. The Christians are just as bloodthirsty as anyone else.
Here's one reason: you are nothing in the grand scheme of things, you can't even hold me to a standard. You can try, but you can't make it stick. Nope, just telling you how it is. Tell you what, find me another example of God "teleporting" people from one place to another. They are usually taken away by a whirlwind or something like that. In case you didn't know it, a whirlwind is a natural phenomenon. He doesn't make square circles, either, or any of the other logically impossible things you guys ask for. It means what it says. Didn't you read the book? This would be the God that doesn't exist, right, written about in the book that is full of fairy tales, yes?
I am holding you to a standard, but that doesn't mean you have to abide by the standard I hold you to. Acts 8, Phillip is snatched away to an entirely different town by the Spirit of God. And again, any of the ascensions into heaven. Stop asking me the same stupid question over and over again. Ffs, yes, but YOU believe them to be true. I am not so mentally incapable of holding a hypothetical in my head, but apparently you find the practice bizarre. Again, if that's true, this means that you are incapable of being critical of religions you don't believe in. Now, are you able to answer the question or not?
What's interesting is that there's a type of christianity called, Christian communism, based on evidence from the Bible which suggests that the first Christians, including the Apostles, established their own small communist society in the years following Jesus' death and resurrection. As such, many believe that communism was taught by Jesus and practiced by the Apostles themselves. so sorry - trying to claim that christianity and communism arent compatible - kinda not gonna fly.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
LOL - says the guy who can't explain why the bible says that nonbelievers should be stoned to death in Deutoronomy 13. Dude - this is YOUR OWN religion. And when I bring up a passage that you can't explain, your response is to ignore Deutoronomy and try to shift attention to Leviticus? Sorry, but that's just sad. But what's sadder, is that you think that Leviticus is any better, LOL...let's see what that Leviticus says: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) "Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community" (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT) Seriously - some of this stuff is the same as what ISIS teaches (ie ISIS believes that those who blaspheme Muhammad must be put to death....like they did with the french cartoonists). Except that ISIS actually follows what the Koran teaches, while most Christians just ignore these passages in the bible (just as you do).
You should probably read the book prior to making claims in relation to that book. Previously you were trying to claim that Muhammad had never heard of Christianity. Now all of a sudden you claim to be well aware of actual verses in the Qur'an talking about Christians but beckon people to ignore them. Wow.. talk about disingenuous.
Why? Because I've demonstrated how Islam is essentially the same as Christianity--how the kind of things that ISIS is doing is actually advocated both in the Koran AND the Bible? Sorry to burst your bubble. But Christianity is just like every other religion that the world has known--ie it's a 5th century philosophy with 5th century morality. it's not special. Christianity is just as immoral and barbaric as the other religions that were created during that time. It's just that over time, people have ignored the teachings of the bible and have created their own religion and called it "Christianity." But no modern "Christian" really follows the bible anymore. And if you actually read some of the crazy stuff that the bible says, that's a good thing!
