who told you such nonsense? The traditional view is that Leviticus was compiled by Moses, but scholars are practically unanimous that the book had a long period of growth, and that although it includes some material of considerable antiquity, it reached its present form in the Persian period (538–332 BCE) - - - Updated - - - well, considering he talked about stories from the Bible, its clear he read about them or someone told him about them
I never blamed christianity for islamic atrocities. I blame christianity for christian atrocities, such as the planned parenthood shootings and the crusades. All i'm saying is that christianity and islam are very similar in their philosophies--they both advocate murder and amoral acts. It's just that most modern Christians ignore the parts of the bible that they find to be immoral. Many modern Muslims also ignore the parts of the koran that are immoral. but some do not. - - - Updated - - - If it has "nothing" to do with god, why is it in the bible?
LOL no ... he just adopted the first five books of the Bible into his new religion and made up the rest... Thats why it took 23 years ! What ... did you think Gabriel sat around and dictated the Qu'ran at the rate of one word a day ... because that's how slow he would have had to go to take 23 years.
The tone is different, but they say the same things, nonetheless... The power, wealth, and position of western countries stems directly from those imperialistic operations worldwide in nature. Europe made no doubts, they were out for world power, wealth, and possessions, and such things were blessed and financed by the Church when not initiated by it. The Catholic church gave Spain the rights to all of the America's on the terms that they convert all the natives to Christianity. Australia, similarly, was subject to a regime of assimilation or eradication. Realistically, we are accusing the Islamic peoples of wanting what we already have. World-wide power. We accuse them of using religion as we have used religion. The cycle of violence and all that...
Which isn't a tenet of Christianity. It was proclaimed by those not following Jesus. Practitioners of that "religion of peace" are doing what their esteemed prophet and supreme example would do.
The Christian Bible contains more than Jesus. Even so, Jesus is the Servant, not the Master. The Master is so very violent. Jesus is like the public relations guy you send to try and persuade your terms favorably before you send the jackals. Does it not say the Lamb will return as the Lion? No. They bend the rules about as often as we bend them. Ignore them. Re-write them. It really makes no difference. We are only really serving our own ambitions and will use whatever half-baked philosophy or ideal to validate ourselves. Is this not true for everyone? Rather than I'm right and they're wrong, it's more like 'were both wrong. We should both stop contributing to a poor future".
Again your showing your lack of understand of the bible. 2 Chronicles chapter 15 is Azariah addressing the tribes of Israel. He is explaining that when the tribes stood with God, they prospered, but when they denied God they suffered his wrath. The passages that you quoted reminds them that they had entered into a Covenant with God. Those that chose not to seek God were violating the covenant. The verses do not tell them to kill gentiles. In the Mathews verse, Jesus is telling the Disciples that he is not changing the laws for Jews. While later Jesus tells the Disciples that his message is the same for Jews and gentiles, Jesus did not say that he was extending the laws for Jews to gentiles. So, these verses do not disprove what I posted.
The verse explicitly says that anyone who would not convert to Judaism must be killed. Here's another. Deuteronomy 13:6-9 - "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death." Theologically, Christians are not gentiles, since Christianity is a continuation of Judaism.
??? There is nothing new about the religion. It is a continuation of the same religion God first revealed to Abraham. Two, the verses were not solely revealed through Gabriel. Three, the Prophet was an illiterate man, and he certainly was no poet. So, how is it that he produced a massively rich and eloquent texts, with information that no desert man in 600AD could possibly know of?
so Abraham prayed 5 times a day, facing Mecca, saying "there is no god but allah and muhammed is his messenger"? LOL!!!
The rituals are irrelevant. The Prophet did not exist during the time of Abraham. Nevertheless, the Muslims worship only God- the God of Abraham. Just as Abraham did.
Fascinating. I am very familiar with the Bible but have never read the Koran but recognize some of that tone. It's to be expected- we all know the relationship & how the 3 religions started, and should expect overlap. Ronstar, when you said the "tone of the Koran was more angry than the bible or Torah," have you read either the Bible or Torah recently, or just go from your own understanding from church or culture etc? Right now I'm getting through the (bible) book of Kings & chronicles, listing king after king that did evil in God's eyes, worshipping false gods and leading God's people astray. And they are being punished by God ... so like the other person said ^ I see similarities between what I hear of the radical Koran style stuff and the old testament, if I were to imagine really misguidedly attempting to apply the old testament to modern life and not knowing about Jesus... my apologies I don't know how to quote correctly yet on my Android the way the rest of you are, I'm brand new to the forum. Where would I find a good translation of the Koran online anyway, without ending up on some watch list somewhere? Lol I'd check my usual source bible gateway, but something tells me it won't be there.
You mean the nutjob who didn't really shoot up a Planned Parenthood a couple of weeks ago? He was over a mile away. It had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood and I am not even sure the guy was Christian. And the Crusades? Why are you butthurt about that? Try to come up with something factual this time. Since you are short on facts, why don't you grab an example of advocating murder and "amoral" (I think the word you're looking for here is "immoral") acts from the New Testament. I'll wait. If it has "nothing" to do with god, why is it in the bible?[/QUOTE]
I find it to be the height of irony that you are talking about what's "factual." And yet, you don't think Robert Dear was a christian..... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/02/us/robert-dear-planned-parenthood-shooting.html?_r=0 How about the most immoral principle of all---judgement day---where it's OK to torture people for all of eternity simply because they have a religion that's different than yours.
If you spend any amount of time on political forums you will have a file created about you somewhere. I would suggest that if you want to stay of the radar you spend your time on Disney forums. As long as you do not mention words like Jihad, assassination, Muslim, president, terror, bomb, suicide......you should be ok though. Oooooops
Now you're getting it. It isn't the worship of the national God of the Jews, nor is it the worship of a self-immolating man. It is the worship of the Lord of the universe.
by that logic, Christians and Jews are Muslims. so whenever Muslims slaughter Jews and Christians, they kill their own people.
Massively rich and eloquent ? I would say more like repetitious meandering but, each to their own. 2) The myth that Muhammad was illiterate has never been proven 3) Muhammad most certainly could read and write. That he ran a major business shows he could. Unless he could read and write, he could not properly run his business affairs. Second, the Koran wasn't even written during the time of Muhammad, so even if he couldn't read or write, it is obvious he never saw the Koran, as Muslims have it today.
he didn't produce (*)(*)(*)(*). his scribes did. and its pretty silly to say that desert Arabs had no knowledge of the Torah and Gospels, in 600 AD.
