Islam spreads to South America

Stereotyping is fun

 

Nothing strange at all. Hating the Koran is hating hatred. Simple as that.

 

Because they haven't stopped attacking us. As for why that is, ask :

Abu Sayyaf, Philippines
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, Egypt
Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, Gaza Strip and West Bank
Al-Shabaab, Somalia
Al-Qaeda, worldwide
Ansar al-Islam, Iraq
Armed Islamic Group (GIA), Algeria
Caucasus Emirate (IK), Russia
East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), China
Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Egypt
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front (IBDA-C), Turkey
Hamas, Gaza Strip and West Bank
Harkat-ul-Mujahideen al-Alami, Pakistan
Hezbollah, Lebanon
Islamic Movement of Central Asia, Central Asia
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan
Jaish-e-Mohammed, Pakistan and Kashmir
Jamaat Ansar al-Sunna, Iraq
Jemaah Islamiyah, Indonesia
Lashkar-e-Taiba, Pakistan and Kashmir
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Pakistan
Moro Islamic Liberation Front, Philippines
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, Morocco and Europe
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Gaza Strip and West Bank
Tawhid and Jihad, Iraq
The Taliban, Afghanistan/Pakistan

 

Who's "us"? I don't see America anywhere on that list?

 

no its not.

hating the koran is the same as hating the bible.

both are stupid.

people who focus their hatred on books that people (rightly or wrongly) use as guides need to get a life.

 

Yes you do. Scroll down to : Al Qaeda (worldwide) - attacked America 9/11/01 + Al Awlaki (Al Qaeda in Yemen) cohort Major Nidal Hasan killed 13 soldiers in Fort Hood, TX, + + + + + YOU KNOW

 

Now if only Muslims had not murdered 270 million innocent people around the world for 1400 years, including @ 3000, on Sept. 11. 2001, and 13 more in Fort Hood TX Nov. 5. 2009, and 3 more at LAX, 7/4/2002, etc etc, maybe we could agree with that. Dang.

 

Yea, like violence, insurgence and theocracies.
We all need more of that discipline and respect!

 

Poor South Americans.

They went from polytheism to forced Christianity. And now Islam.

Perhaps it is good that they never tried Judaism.

 

No it isnt. It was made by a bunch of ancient people with a good imagination.
http://www.bidstrup.com/bible.htm

In both cases I dont.

Not at all - its FACT.

You never were. Christians lie all the time. They dont believe in taqiyya, according to you, they just believe in lying LOL

 

Because Muslims are not more likely to blow stuff up right?

Get real.

 

They are indeed not more likely to blow stuff up. The USA have been the champion in that 'sport' since the end of WW II:
http://www.google.de/#sclient=psy-a...w.,cf.osb&fp=a29e9a31c8637e5b&biw=765&bih=474
I would assume that most US-soldiers and their leaders are Christian.

 

And you killed tens of thousands of people in response to one groups attack, and more thousands because another country had those darn invisible WMD's.

America has killed FAR more innocent people than any terrorist groups combined.

So you think any time a Muslims kills somebody, it counts for your little "Jihad total"?

Christians have killed FAR more people than Muslims.

You're double standard is flawed.

Haha Islam didn't introduce terrorism to the world. Don't worry, Christians and Jews and used it for a long time themselves. We won't take the credit for it.

Who's forcing Islam on them? But you bring up an interesting point

The ones incharge of blowing things up are. Obviously.

Good answer.

 

If not daily, certainly weekly we see reports of violence by groups claiming to be Muslim or with ties to Islam.

We see apoligists on this board try to tell us they are not Muslims and this has nothing to do with Islam.

They call us racist for questioning their statements, which is ridiculous since Islam in a religion, not an ethnicity.

They insult us and even taunt us.
They make light of those who have suffered or died.
They justify provocative behavior by self-proclaimed Muslims.

Not just illegal organizations but legitimate sovereign nations ruled by Islamic Theocracies.

Why don't you apologize for those who call themselves your brothers (fellow Muslims) and acknowledge the pain and suffering inflicted by those who call themselves your brothers (fellow Muslims) through their violence.

Until Muslims become accountable for what Muslims do I do feel anger and resentment towards them.

I don't want them in the country I live in where they can attempt to subvert laws to undermine the very freedomes these laws represent.

Until they revise practices which treat women like property I don't want them near my families or my children.

Until they revise practices that somehow encourage people to kill women and children for alleged violations against Islam I don't really want to see them interact or criticize any other religion where this doesn't happen.

Basically I'm saying you have no credibility.

Where is the international Islamic organization to coordinate a unified message condemning violence by those who claim to practice Islam?

Where is the international Islamic organization to coordinate a unified effort to combat violence by those who claim to practice Islam?

You aren't peaceful people practicing your peaceful religion, your agitators who distance yourself politically from those you support and act in your interests - the global dominance of Islam.

You aren't peaceful people practicing your peaceful religion, your cowards hiding behind the very countries and people whose children are dying fighting your brothers (fellow Muslims) while you slander them and criticize them.

 

are you accountable personally for everything that any american has ever done to others?

are you, for example - personally accountable for the Abu Ghraib scandal?

are you, for example - personally accountable for every war crime ever committed by american troops, for every civilian casualty in Iraq, afghanistan and countless other wars?

are you, for example - personally responsible for gun running to mexico?

are you, for example - personally responsible for the US's involvement in covert operations throughout latin america?

are you, for example - personally responsible for bombing Indonesia in 1958 ... and the list goes on ... and on ... and on ....

when you hold yourself PERSONALLY ACCOUNTABLE for what has been done in YOUR NAME BY YOUR DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT - you still won't be in a position to point the finger at Muslims who are more likely than you to be the victims of extremists.

 

I absolutely acknowledge, not lie and attempt to justify the illegal actions of this government against the Middle East and Muslim Nations.

I even apologize for my complicity as a citizen of this country and am doing what is in my ability to stop these acts.

Should these cowards and liars display the same honesty and integrity I would respect them otherwise I think they should shut up unless their words are I'm sorry or thank you.

jmho

 

many muslims who have migrated tot he west are doing so to escape the violence in their own country - as are refugees from some other countries - most noticeably (buddhist) myanmar.

most muslims no more condone the violence of their co religionists than you do - and in fact many will argue that the perpetrators of such violence are not "true muslims".

if you don't know this, I can only assume that you are too scared to talk to real muslims - which is why you need to demonise them.

it helps justify your own fears.

 

Read what I said again.
Otherwise is a non-sequitor

 

you stated:

are the perpetrators of violent acts elected by all muslims do carry out these acts on their behalf?

where is the unified chrristian/american/western organisation apologising for all the sins perpetrated in our name?

do all christians agree lock, stock and barrel with every view expressed by - the pope, for example?

 

I never said Islam was forced on them. But it is true that I despise every religion.

 

Which I answered and you pretend to ignore.
Why don't you find someone else to bug unless you also start talking straight.

 

Are you being intentionally obtuse?
Everything I stated is clear and concise.

If you don't understand or misinterpret, that is not my problem.

As for being afraid,
not really, I advocate getting our military out of their countries and believe government exploiting our fear is what got us and is keeping us in there.

As for despise or have contempt for - yeap - that would be me.

As stated earlier these cowards and liars should either shut up or say thank you or I'm sorry.

 

why do you think it is incumbent upon muslims to apologise for the actions of people whose views they do not share - just because they are identified as having the same religion?

do you think all christians should run around saying mea culpa for pedophile priests?

 

Americans have a long tradition of speaking out against wrongs being committed by the US government. Ever hear of the Vietnam Anti-War movement ? On Nov. 15, 1969, 500,000 Americans froze to the bone in Washington D.C., protesting that war. I was one of them. Likewise, many Americans (blacks & whites) protested wrongs of racial oppression in the civil rights movement. American women have protested injustices against them. Just about every group in America has done its share of speaking out against injustices, except one > Muslims.

 

Point is not what Muslims condone or don't condone. The point he's making (correctly) is that they don't publicly denounce it, and their silence is tantamount to support of it. In many cases, they refuse to denounce it like when CAIR representitives are asked if they denounce Hamas terrorism, and they answer "We denounce all terrorism" (not mentioning that they don't define Hamas as terrorists)