Israel says Arrow-3 missile shield passes U.S. trials, warns Iran

If Israel is so tough and capable, then why does the US need to protect them?

 

I don't care if Arabs get jealous. We dont owe any middle east countries anything.
George Washington was wrong.
We should take all the money we give to planned parenthood and give it to Israel for av gas for their f-15s.
We should also stop all support for Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iraq and Afghanistan india and pakistan and pay down our debt.

Israel single handedly kept Iraq from becoming a nuclear power. That alone was worth trillions of aid.

 

I figured at some point out comes the remarkable Gen,. G Washington.

So who was he. ]
George lived on the bank of the Potomac river in a home that amounts to a bit more than 11,000 grand sq feet. Then the upper rank of the ultra rich he also owned a herd of slaves. A herd of slaves is about 300. And he had vast land holdings.

What we most want today is the words of a man who was so rich he could have paid a real payroll but chose to own men.

 

Ok so, America is entitely self sufficient for it's defence, by your standard we should give no aid to anyone. Not a dime.

You agree with Jefferson on the wisdom of Manifest destiny?

 

They don't they need us to sell stuff to them.

 

Then why did you bring up Arab unity against the west?

You realize Israel is a country in the Middle East, right?

So you think you know better than George Washington.

No, we should take all the money we give to PP and give it back to American taxpayers.

The US should, but it doesn't. Because contrary to what you believe, US foreign policy isn't actually guided by morality.

Are you seriously peddling Iraq war WMD propaganda right now?

 

So can Israel protect itself or not?

 

No. Truly.
Just seeking examples of when Israel exaggerated its capabilities
besides your interpretation of this article. Please

 

It's not my standard, it's the standard of the people who founded the US.

The concept of manifest destiny didn't even exist when Jefferson was alive.

 

What's wrong with the example I already gave?

 

In response to Pisa's queries, I will recount the story of Iran, Jews and Israel in 3 parts. I start with the historical relationship, which Netanyahu has actually trying to retell in his own revisionist ways.

The story of Iran starts with the Achaemenid empire founded by Cyrus the Great. Cyrus is known in the Old Testament as the "Lord Anointed", something that elevates him above even Jewish prophets. The Old Testament also admonishes: "the laws of the Persians and the Medes [(the 2 principal Iranian tribes whose confederacy ruled the Achaemenid empire)], disobey them not". The conventional story is that the high esteem for Cyrus was based on the fact that the Persian freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity and allowed them to rebuild them temple in Jerusalem. The real story, not told by any of the adherents of these Abrahmic religions, not even Muslims, is different. At the time, the Persians empire viewed what is now Israel/Palestine, as an unruly and restive area and the return of some of the Babylonian Jews to these lands only increased friction among a mixed population there on who is a real Jew and whose teachings were the genuine article to follow. To settle the issue and to promote a more stable rule in this region, the Persian emperors send emissaries such Ezra and Neremiah with the avowed purpose to settle these issues in a way that is favorable to the Persian empire. The basic teachings of these Jewish "prophets" first settled the issue of who is a real "Jews" in favor of Iran's allies, the recently freed Babylonian Jews, by asserting that a "real Jew" was one born of a Jewish mother. The Babylonian Jews could claim such heritage while the mixed groups living in the region who claimed the Jewish mantle didn't. Secondly, these emissaries were to bring a message that was seen as conducive to Persian rule, including by referencing Cyrus as the "lord anointed" and by basically admonishing the locals to follow Persian rule.

With these innovations to ancient Judaism, and with other new concepts borrowed from Zoroastrianism, a new Judaism was born. And, even more significantly, an identity was carved for the "Jews" which became the basis for them to retain their identity through centuries and several millennia. This identity mixed both ideological religious practices and beliefs with ethnic strands to create what may be regarded as a "Jewish nation".

This is actually the ancient Iranian contribution to the Jews and goes well beyond Cyrus freeing the Jews from Babylonian captivity. In fact, it goes at the heart of Jewish identity and what it means to be a "Jew".

I should mention, as an interesting aside, that even Ashkenazi Jews actually speak a language and come from tribes that have strong Iranian connections.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...xler/eeaafa443ef52f77eae3f25fe87ae72f968b0c4e
http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/yiddish-language-slavo-iranian-jewish-merchants-03797.html

 

I know more about modern middle east foreign policy than GW did.

Israel atracked and destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor, had they not Iraq woukd have had nukes.

All American policy SHOULD be guided by morality.

 

Yes if we sell them good stuff like f-15s and f35s

 

Oh reallly? That's why he made the Louisiana Purchase and sent Lewis and Clark west.

 

When I look at the middle east right now I see Iran having a private army in Lebanon.
Waging war in Syria.
Creating civil war in Yeman.
Destabilizing Bharain.
Having massive troups in Iraq.
Attacking ships in seas.
So Iran is the agressor.
Now to the other baseless claim of yours.
The claim that Iran is afraid of an attack by Israel is total BS.
Why would Israel attack Iran which is 2000km away from it?
It is Iran who is developing balistic missiles, an agressor as was shown above, and Israel who is developing defense system against such missiles.

 

So Iran is not genocidal, but complains that it cannot murder all the Jews because they develop system to protect themselves?

 

There is another super rich man who owned his own personal herd of slaves., Woooooeeee did he own slaves. So if he did not believe in manifest destiny what was his reason to own human beings?

Like Old G Washington, Jefferson also believed in living large. His 11,000 sq foot mansion was the rage of his area. And it looks lovely today.

 

Iran hasn't said anything about Israel's anti-missile program, except to dismiss its ability to counter Iranian missiles. I have said that any success of programs such as the Arrow 3 would be destabilizing as they would weaken Iran's deterrent capabilities. Now, deterrence is based on the concept of I kill you if you kill me and if that is genocidal to you, then all deterrent programs (and certainly, above all of them, the US-Soviet Union doctrine of MAD) is genocidal.

 

Nothing but Islam hate from you, Nothing new. Now, if Islam hate was treated with the same respect as antisemitism.... but no, it is the given the same position as hatred of Jews was in 1930's Germany and some sections of the US. Same game, different actors.

 

He never said that. What is more it is considered antisemetic to pretend all Jews are responsible for the actions of Israel..to lump all Jews with Israel. What is more Israel is a country where 20-25% of its people are not even Jews.

 

I am guessing you live in Saudi Arabia?

 

If it were only so

Iran does support Hezbollah, which besides serving as a deterrent force against Israel, is also the organ which empowers a disenfranchised majority in Lebanon and gives them the kind of influence in Lebanon that they deserve but wouldn't have under Lebanon's colonial influenced system of sectarian division of power, where regardless of numbers of votes and voters and the electorate, the presidency as guaranteed to a Christian (many of whom are actually allies of Hezbollah), the government is supposed to be led by a Sunni prime minister (which are backed by the Saudis and other Arab states and are the ones that are most active in trying to undermine Hezbollah within Lebanon). Of course, this "private army" was formed and founded after Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 and rose in power and influence during the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon, a region inhabited by the Shia. Of course, ever since the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, neither side has been attacking each other in Israel or Lebanon, which is thanks to Hezbollah's ability to inflict great damage to Israel in case of war and not anything else.

As for Syria, it was the US, EU, the Arab league along with Israel (and even Turkey) who all conspired to unseat Assad. They are the ones who plunged Syria in civil war, with Iran's role to prevent Syria from being taken over by the deranged sunni Jihadist elements overtly and covertly being funded and supported by these powers. Iran, of course, did it for its own reasons, principally to keep the bridge to Hezbollah intact, but the other side plunged Syria in civil war for precisely this reason: due to its unwillingness to cut its ties with Iran and the axis of resistance.

The civil war in Yemen is based on internal dynamics in Yemen. Of course, Iran supports those who are friendlier to it than the Al Queda elements which are on the other side, while the Saudi led campaign in Yemen (supported directly by the US and western powers) is committing what amounts to genocide in Yemen. The only good thing about this otherwise under-reported tale of unbelievable and grotesque human atrocities being committed by the Saudis and their friends, is that all the might and money poured into Yemen hasn't been able to defeat a rag tag Houthi force which is at best marginally supported by Iran.

 

I was perplexed when I saw "Documentary on the life of Mohammed" so I googled it and there it was and there also were documentaries on the life of Jesus... so, lemmi axe you alexa - Documentaries on the life of Jesus.. what are they consist of? Fables? Fairy tales? Legends?

 

I have news for you lad; Israel is full of Jews!

 

Fair 'nuff; now, 0.2% of the World's people have captured over 20% of the World's most prestigious recognitions of the most serious lifetime achievements. Now, what does it tells you?