Israel shoots down Syrian warplane

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  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Your entire argument is based on:

    "Who in their right mind would provoke a military force vastly superior to yours?"

    That statement is so hilarious false that it makes your entire statement kinda silly. Basically every rebellion in history has done this, political movements and even outspoken groups all fall in the same thing.

    Your last statement about "evil" is correct, I just don't understand how your words can paint them as "evil" right before you made the statement. So much so that you call anything you don't like a lie.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    I noticed this too, the best part is people who just immediately call out "LIE!" when you can see the facts and data right there to come to your own conclusion.

    People are so bigoted and hateful that they don't even read it, unfortunately the media has created certain topics that it is ok to be bigoted against.


    Nationalism, White Men, Israel, Christianity. Certain subjects are apparently ok to be hateful against and have somehow lost the protection of equal rights, all because of a history that some people hate so much, they paint those ideals as "evil".
     
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    it's not just "me". Nobody does in the UN.
     
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    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Less people care about what the UN thinks than what hysteric nonsense leftists are espousing 24/7 so good luck with that effecting anything
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    The UN General Assembly.... = ... all the countries in the world.
    When they agree... I even think all of them... that Israel is not Gaza or the WB, or Golan with a vote. Than it still is all of them countries saying where Israels borders are at. Rather silly to hide behind ... "the UN".
     
  6. SiNNiK

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    Israel decides where it's borders are.
     
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    You seriously believe that Assad purposefully provoked the war-mongering state of Israel? Really?
     
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    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    What absolute BS garbage. There are more reporters in Israel than there in THE ENTIRE REST OF THE MIDEAST, AFRICA, AND RUSSIA COMBINED.

    Explain how with so much press coverage, where EVERY move Israel does makes the headline/cover of every major news outlet, is not "hearing the other side of the story".

    If you are going to spout something stupid, at least have the basic facts before doing so.

    Second, Israel has ALREADY presented russia and others with the radar signature of the syrian jet showing how it crossed the border, which is why other than a few fools on the internet, the major powers in the region involved in this conflict like russia and iran have not said a thing.

    If you just hate jews/Israel, then have the character to say it, and stop obfuscating with nonsensical BS.

    For me, its back to twitter and see you all again (maybe if you're lucky) in another year or two.
     
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    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    assad/russia/iran just mass murdered 1 MM people in syria in the last few years, iran is conducting FIVE wars in other countries along with worldwide terrorism - but people like this call Israel "warmongering."

    What an amazing forum with talented, capable people this is.
     
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    Speak for yourself. Not a leftist here, Israel needs to join the rest of the civilized nations of the world and cease with their stinking little ethnic cleaning and land theft operation.
     
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    Rubbish.
     
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    Nobody believes a word of what the lying warmongering state has to say
     
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    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    As soon as the arab muslims, russians and iranians stop doing so, then we can discuss Israel.
     
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    Was referring to the reporters in Israel, do try to keep up....
     
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    Great argument, as to be expected from one without facts and less knowledge.
     
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    It's where the rebels are.
     
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    So this is then an example of Israel supporting terrorists ?
     
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    No, Syria shot down one of there's the other week. It's an example of revenge.
     
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    lol there it is. Always goes back to anti-semitism...

    Just no. The fact that there’s journalist in Israel means what exactly? Except maybe we get more of a one sided story. Face it, only one side is told in the states. And I’m not exactly sure why everyone cares. This has absolutely nothing to do with Israel existing or their safety. They have a right to exist as a people. And they have a right to peace.

    That’s not the argument. they do NOT have a right to indiscriminately bomb people because a lunatic in a destabilized area kills an Israeli citizen. They do NOT have a right to claim land and push people from their homes by destroying them. They do NOT have a right to bomb a town and kill thousands because an idiot from a destabilized area blew himself up killing a few people.

    See? That’s the plan. Human nature would have it, anyone would retaliate like the Palestinians are, if they’re being oppressed and homes taken. Bombed from afar. All I hear from you plebs is that all Palestinians are terrorists. I have literally heard that exact statement from at least 5 people on this board. That’s disgusting.

    There is no evil in this world, only perspective. And I refuse to take sides when clearly one side is winning. There are innocent people on that Palestinian side and THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE I try to defend with argument. It has nothing to do with hating Jews.... sick.

    How’s it taste? I’ve never done it...
     
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    Syria is very imperilled as it is. An invasion of Israel would almost certainly provoke a regional war which would result in Assad's head on a pike.

    Most likely there'll be a little sabre rattling but no serious attacks.
     
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    My friend, very well stated. It's nice to see that there are still freethinking people on this forum.
     
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    You should travel to the Middle East .. It's nice and hot now ..
    ONLY people that visited that area and entered the conflict zones can understand the truth.
    If you learn from the BDS or the Pro Paleshtino wall of lies media .. then you are wrong.
    The battle there is not about land or acres .. the battle is about ALL OR NOTHING.
    The small tint holy Jewish land called Israel cannot and will not act as Europe .. France is becomming Islamic .. Jews cannot allow it.
    They were under Muslim rule and other nations for many many years ... No more.
    The Arabs have 21 countries ... Large countries ... Millions of acres ... so it's not about land.
    Israel left Gaza and recieved missles in return ..
    The Palestinian leaders DO NOT want peace.. they will be killed same as Saadat was murdered in Egypt.
    Would you live under rocket alarms ? Probably not .
    Many Israelis live in shelters 30 - 50% of the time .. that's normal ? No.
    When Israel ruled Gaza , No missles were shot and the Gazans had good life .
    Visit Gaza .. Ask them if it's not true .. Just do it quietly because they are afraid of Hamas.
    Go visit Ramallah and Nables .. I did !! It's quiet living cities .. restaurants are full ... markets are busy and night clubs are packed.
    So ... No pro Jihado Islamo Arabo can change what i have seen with my eyes !
     
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    Are they? Not really ... Are the Golan Heights Israel territory or occupied area?
     
  25. Mackithius

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    And why should I trust your word?

    I haven't been there so I can't possibly know, so my only recourse is to trust the narrative?

    No. get lost.

    I said before and I'll say again, there are always two perspectives. I care about the innocent people in Palestine. And how effective are these "leaders" with their people segregated by checkpoints and destabilized all the time?

    That's a hogwash argument. And it's no different than all the others. "You don't know, it's bad, so trust us." Nope, we're WAY beyond trust now.
     

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