Israeli Cabinet Unanimously Rejects Kerry's Temporary Truce Proposal.....

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    LOL, taking statements of the IOF at face value is comical if it weren't tragic. I suppose the bombing of half a dozen hospitals as well as UN schools were "tragic mistakes" too? You are an apologist for the killing and maiming of kids and it's sickening and revolting.
     
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    Actually.....listening to anything Hamas has to say is a waste of time and money. They are Terrorists and each and every single one of them needs to be terminated on Sight.
     
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    Hamas are the Palestinian nationalist resistance movement. The clue is in the word "resistance". No occupation=No resistance to occupation. If Israel did not renege on its international obligations by abiding to international law and thus retreated to the '67 line, there would be no need for Hamas rockettes. Grasping the colonial legacy of Israel as being the root of the problem predicated on illegal expansionism, ethnic cleansing and oppression, is crititical to any understanding of the current phase. All else is essentially window dressing. Read professor Pappe's book, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" and all will become clear.
     
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    Hamas is nothing but some MB backed Terrorists.....if the Palestinian people want to have any peace. They need to find some backbone and courage to stand up to the Terrorists, and take back what is Rightfully theirs.

    Mercs and Bounty hunters should also be sent out to Terminated the infestation on sight. As well as any Organized Crime Syndicates.

    Truly making life completely miserable for them to go on.
     
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    You are funny. Israel withdrew from Gaza to its 1967 lines and the day it did Hamas and other radical extremist groups in Gaza shot rockts at it and have not stopped. They never renounced their Charter to destroy Israel and kill Jews world wide, they never renounced their goal to take back Israel, they remained in a full state of war, continued to dig tunnels into Israel and continued with terror attacks.

    What world do you live in where you pretend Hamas only attacks Israel because it was occupied.

    That script was contradicted by Hamas years ago no different then Hezbollah said they were only armed because Israel was in Lebanon and once Israel left Lebanon, they would disarm, Not only did Hezbollah refuse to disarm, it did the exact opposite, turned the entire South of Lebanon into an armed no man's land which they us to attack Syria now and used to send terrorists into Israel. The very day Israel withdrew from Lebanon terrorists of Hezbollah infiltrated and attacked Israel.

    You need a new script. This posing Hamas as an innocent group only defending itself and not engaged in an offensive is past trite.
     
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    There it is in a nutshell. I have complained about Obama's lack of leadership since day one so I must be a racist...
     
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    No and you hear it from me. I read your earlier posts. You can tell me you told me so anytime. I admit Iwas naive to think Obama could handle foreign policy, Very naive. I had preferred John McCain's foreign policy but I thought Obama would be a breath of fresh air eight years ago.

    Then when Romney ran against Obama people blew Romney away based on what he said about foreign policy and he has been provedn right now on his foreign policy predictions.

    I have never been more disappointed than in the unprofessional and clownish behaviour of John Kerry that simply gets worse each day with his clumsy attempts to pressure Israel and in so doing incite Hamas.

    He is a prize fool. Obama is a joke. He's not even hiding his anti Israel bias now. Its all out in the open for all to see his bias towards the Muslim Brotherhood. His bias for the Muslim Brotherhood, i.e., Erdogan in Turkey and Morsi in Egypt is blatant. This latest bafoonery trying to pressure Israel by dragging in pro Hamas Turkey and Oman was sheer idiocy and so much so it was Egypt not Israel who told him to phack off.

    He has not only alienated Israel but continues to alienate Egypt and Saudi Arabia not to mention Jordan who all have vested interests in disarming Hamas. Any semblance of moderate Palestinians being able to surface to offer an alternative to Hamas has been destroyed by the clumsy mishandling of this matter by Kerry and Obama.

    They pulled Clinto because she was perceived as pro Israeli and they won't admit Muslim leaders won't deal with a ego could not also lead him to call on Colin Powell as an enovy and who is respected by all sides .

    This mess is a vaccum created by failed Obama leadership. what we need us a US retired general as peace envoy.


    Kerry is so over his puffed head it aint funny.

    I can think of at least 50 American officials ost military but former politicians too. I would send to talk cease fire before the bafoon Kerry starting with Powell, McCain, and former US Generals Lloyd J. Austin, James D. Thurman, Wesley Clark, Thomas A. Schwarz, to name but a few I would have chosen at one time or another. (now whether they would want such a headache is another story)

    Kerry is an embarassement.

    Joe Biden should be the lead negotiator if they must stick with the cabinet they have now. since he has been round long enough on the world stage with foreign relations to command some respect and even though he was once dissed by Netanyahu he is widely trusted and respected in Israel. So is John McCain for that matter and why is Bill Clinton sitting on the side lines. How can they be not using this man as their envoy of all people?

    Bill Richardson equally respected by Republics and Democrats could have also been used as he is respected by Israel.

    The US has no shortage of former politicians, current Senators and former military generals who should have been called upon not this fool Kerry who has zero credibility.

    Then again if Obama admitted Kerry is a bafoon he would have to admit since he fired Clinton his foreign policy handling imploded.

    I am absolutely frustrated that Obama is preventing some very competent American military professionals and statesman from being used as the peace envoys and not this idiot Kerry who is a loose cannon and without a doubt the most arrogant, ignorant, and just down right stupid of politicians I have ever seen. To think he ran for President. I never thought it possible a man could be so full of himsellf even a politician.

    When he stands and talks and engages in that puff pastry language of his lecturing the world on what is right the people standing with him barely conceal their contempt no matter who they are.

    Its ironic because Obama ran on a foreign policy platform that the US would no longer tell the world what to do and be more sensitive and work with people not against them. Uh yah right. Since he was appointed Kerry has insulted and alienated every loyal American ally. What a joke.

    If it wasn't for the US military which keeps its own set of relations with Israel, South Korea, and other strategic military allies it would be even worse.

    I am sorry but until an American who understands the Middle East and terrorism is back in control of the White House things will get worse and Netanyahu, South Korea, some other allies who depend heavily on a strong US foreign presence like the Philippines, Taiwan, Japan, Holland, Britain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Ukraine, all have to hold their collective breaths and wait for the next US election.


    Ah but don't worry Kerry;s been meeting with or Hamas, Oman and Turkey. Yah that is bound to help solve things, especially now that such action alienated Egypt the principal mediator who Kerry undermined and insulted even worse than Israel.

    Got to hand it to the idiot, just when you think he's alienated a good ally, he finds yet another good ally to insult.

    Atta boy John.
     
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    They withdrew from Gaza because they had 20,000 IDF guarding 8,000 settlers... which was dumb beyond reason.
     
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    Lol, so Margot you admit they withdrew. See we do agree on things. You want a hug?
     
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    That map (courtesy of the totally impartial IDF), is evidence of nothing. It's a map.
     
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    Hmm, how come those vicious Iranians haven't pushed those Jews 'into the sea' yet? Could it be because they have protection from persecution under the Iranian Constitution?
     
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    Well, lets not forget any that the Israeli Captured. Maps or Hamas Terrorists themselves.
     
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    The devil is in the details........
     
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    Israel aint going to listen to anyone eh? In truth she has Saudi Arabia and the dictatorship in Egypt on her side. Who needs anyone else?
     
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    I don't think Egypt and KSA are on Israel's "side".. I think both want a just peace.. Israelis should know the difference and review the specifics of the Saudi Peace Initiative.
     
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    Not sure about that Margo. Been hearing that none of the arab countries are caring one bit for the Gazan's well maybe Lebanon. Egypt is no longer the Palestinians friend under Sisi. The Egyptian people, that might be different but they were not even allowed to get into Gaza with symbolic humanitarian aid. There government would not let them. Saudi would not care about Gaza either so it is being left to Turkey and Qatar. Of course Egypt needs to be involved in any peace deal because of it's border but in reality she (she being the government) is no longer any more of a friend to Gaza than Israel is.
     
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    They have always cared about Gaza and the Palestinians.. and there is ample, consistent evidence of that since 1950. The problem is the militant arm of Hamas which plays into sabotaging any peace process seemingly on cue.

    The question should be IMO... WHY.
     
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    Yes been the final destruction of Gaza. Keep reading people believe they should keep fighting till Hamas's demands are met because they would be better off dead than they are now.
     

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