Israeli elections

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    To nuke whom ? World opinion ? The indigenous Palestinian population ? A dispassionate god ?
     
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    Sure, and the ********s would have done too- but they can't nuke god, world opinion or the Palestinians . These are their bitter adversaries - and Zionism is losing. So who they gonna nuke ? Are they going to threaten the 138 who won the 138-9 endorsement of a Palestinian State ? There are some big boys in there- with nukes of their own.
     
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    TILLAWI - Mordechai, there are a lot of nations that have nuclear weapons. What is it about Israel having them that makes you so nervous?

    VANUNU - Because Israel wants to use them, to cause genocide and holocaust on other innocent citizens. It has always been a part of Israel's secret policy. And also by having them, Israel will use them as a threat to avoid making peace with the Arab world as well as imposing her policies on those peoples. As long as she has them, she will continue on in her policies of not making peace, of occupation and of neglecting the Palestinian suffering caused by the refugee camps that have existed for more than 50 years.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...uclear-threat-interview-mordechai-vanunu.html
     
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    Yes. Like Vanunu said, 'tis blackmail. The World is being blackmailed, by Israel and their Samson option. Don't think for a second they do not intend to use these, in the end. It will not take much. I predict it could be within the decade. Will be too late, after the fact.

    There is no other logical explaination as to the extent that the World lies down to these people. Only in the context of blackmail does it even start to make some sense.

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    One part of JFK’s character which will not be covered by the mass media is his courageous opposition to the power Israel enjoys over the United States of America.

    In the thought provoking book, They Dare to Speak Out by Paul Findley we read on page 114 that during Kennedy’s campaign for president in 1960 he had a meeting with some prominent Jews.

    He saw this as the only way to prevent the nightmare of today, which has not only the President, but the overwhelming majority of people in Congress bought and paid for by the very powerful Israeli lobby.

    Israel’s lobby is so strong that hardly any politician will disobey their orders regarding U.S. Middle East foreign policy.

    And that includes starting wars, such as the war in Iraq, which benefit Israel and harm America and the rest of the world.

    In Seymour Hersh’s insightful book, The Samson Option, which addresses Israel’s nuclear weapons arsenal, Hersh covers John Kennedy’s fight to stop Israel’s nuclear proliferation.

    He writes that Kennedy was “fixated” on stopping the Jewish state’s nuclear build up.

    Another interesting point in Hersh’s book is that the Democrat John Kennedy appointed a Republican, John A. McCone, to lead the C.I.A. because McCone was not afraid to confront Israel about its nuclear weapons work at Dimona.

    In 1965 McCone resigned because Lyndon Johnson was afraid to confront Israel as Kennedy had done and Johnson was scared he would lose Jewish votes and support if he did try to stop Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

    In 1965 the Gilpatric report, which has since been declassified, called for the U.S. to pressure other nations, including Israel, to not build nuclear weapons. Johnson ignored and suppressed the report. Every politician after Kennedy toed the line with the Israeli lobby after the assassination of John Kennedy.

    Kennedy was very insulted when one of the Jews said they knew Kennedy’s campaign was in financial difficulty and that he and his Jewish friends would “help and help significantly” John Kennedy’s campaign if, as president, Kennedy “would allow them to set the course of Middle East policy over the next four years.”

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/21/john-f-kennedy-oppossed-israels-power/
     
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    Who? Name all the countries on that list of 138 who have a substantial (or any), nuclear capablity?
     
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    Israelis vote in general elections expected to keep Bibi in power

    Israelis are voting in general elections expected to keep Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in office for a third term at the head of a coalition of hardline rightwing parties.

    Israelis went to polling stations on Tuesday to choose new parliament (Knesset) members and head of cabinet.

    Opinion polls estimated that Netanyahu’s rightwing Likud party, which is running on a joint list with hardline Yisrael Beitenu group, would win most of the seats.

    Netanyahu has promised to pursue his plans to construct illegal settlements on the occupied Palestinian lands if he stays in office, a policy that has so far sparked international criticism even from its number one ally, the United States.

    However, as no Israeli party has to date been able to win absolute majority, Netanyahu will have to form a coalition to control the Knesset's 120 seats.

    The centre-left Labor party is anticipated to come in second. The party leader Shelly Yachimovich is also predicted to become an opposition leader as she earlier vowed she would not join a coalition with Netanyahu.

    The Jewish Home Party is predicted to trail Labor and become a likely partner for the future coalition. Naftali Bennett was appointed the party’s leader in November, but quickly became a popular figure among Israelis.

    According to the polls, the rightwing bloc would win 61 to 67 seats, while the center-left and Arab parties will secure 53 to 57 seats.

    The future coalition will face a wide range of challenges, such as a budget crisis, austerity cuts, and public dissatisfaction over rising prices.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/22/284936/israelis-vote-in-general-elections/
     
  8. moon

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    France, China, Russia- all permanent SC members. I'll assume that Pakistan and North Korea did too. That's all the nuclear bomb States bar the US of AIPAC and Israel. The UK slithered to an abstention.
     
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    Pakistan. What are they going to do about anything? They are riddled with poverty, are often illiterate, and have a leader who accepts money in return for allowing the US to murder it's citizens without impunity. Of all the Muslims I have met, and I have met Egyptians, Persians, etc, Pakistani's are the only one's I felt no connection with, at all. I find them rude and abrupt. Anyway, they would do nothing, and I bet that whatever nukes they hold are not even v up to date. Remember the all crucial codes, as well. That is always crucial, esp as none of us really know who precisley holds the codes, to whose nukes. Actually, to that end, since Zionist Jews have penetrated right into the heart of US politics, culture, religion, media, and economics, are you 100% sure that non Jewish non Zionists, even hold the codes for the US nukes? Think about that. Who specifically do you think the general public literally thinks holds the codes to the US nukes? I find it impossible to accept that level of penetration as mentioned, and somehow believe that at no point did Zionist Jews ever think to secure the codes of US nukes. Are you 100% confident that they have not? And what if they have? What would be the implications, if my proposition were correct, and these codes were very much in the hands of those people?

    China. They will do nothing. Notice how, all of a sudden, Japan appear to be getting more brazen and aggressive. That's China's distraction right there.

    What are France going to do? Sure they have nukes, that is true. But they are, once again, bewitched by Jewish Zionists. Lots of very infuential French Jews in their body politic. I am of the view that no two nations people are the same, this idea that all people, of all lands, everywhere, all think and act the same, is a myth. They don't. Indeed, it is one of the greatest social tricks every played on us, to suggest that people do. They evidently do not. There are huge difference in psychological and cultural outlook, between people, that is what sociology is about, in essence. You do not even need drift that far in culture. I have lived in various parts of Europe, I could SEE and HEAR that there are noted differences in the way they all think, and there is nothing wrong in that, indeed, I would sooner it were the case, I like the variance.

    There is no kind way of saying this, but it is true. Nukes aside, the psyche of France, when in comes to conflict, is that they lack courage. I truly believe that the courage of a nation's people can vary, just as I outlined before with other nuanced difference, and while there are clearly exceptions to the rule, the French do not exactly have a shining repuation, when it comes to resilance and courage. They totally folded in WW2, and if you actually read up on the reality of the so called 'French Resistance', it really did not amount to much of anything. France never nor would they ever take on an opponent, unless they were certain to win. If you threaten them, their inclination is to give in. I truly believe that a psyche like that can be passed down, generation to generation.

    Russia? What are they going to do? While it manifests in an altogether different sort of way, the fact is that Putin et all, they are 100% in the grip of Zionist Jews, behind the curtain, perhaps even to the same level as the US.

    N.Korea are not even worth quoting.
     
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    Clock this, chaps;

    ....and don't let's be hearing any of that ' Israel is a democracy ' nonsense. You'll get reported to the Trade Descriptions department.


     
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    ONLY 400 seats in the hall for Obama and Romney and the USAIPAC congress tonight

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    Nah, it's not diplomacy. It's called influence peddling. And it's a one-way street.
     
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    Naftali Bennet , is a name I've not heard before.

    Shows Israelis true colours.


    Likud-Beitenu's right-wing dominance has been challenged by Habayit Hayehudi, led by millionaire businessman Naftali Bennett - Mr Netanyahu's former chief-of-staff.

    He has advocated annexing large parts of the occupied West Bank and rejected the idea of a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

    Naftali Bennett Keynote Address at Beit Orot Dinner in New York January 8, 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomUZ-m_4S8&feature=player_embedded

    [video=youtube;xomUZ-m_4S8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xomUZ-m_4S8&feature=player_embedded[/video]


    (Please watch to the very end and observe Bennets smirk + body language)

    Mr Bennett said he was confident a strong result at a polling station on Tuesday, adding: "Something new is starting for the people of Israel."


    http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/01/2...-his-policies-in-keynote-dinner-speech-video/
     
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    Israel is a foreign power which interferes with American affairs. Corporate Zionism owns Congressmen. Fight back, even if your government won't;

    From Marlowe's article;

    OK, Palestinian response should be to scrap the Two State solution and annex Israel.
     
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    A good read;


    Question;

    Can Israeli expats vote in Israeli elections ? The squatters , for example, do not live in Israel
     
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    It is time a number of truths were told by Israel, to the world at large. They owe us that, at least. I get it, I understand their message, but I would implore them just to drop the fluff, and come out and just state it, free of all the spin and PR. I would actually have a measure more respected for them, if they did, I use that term in a loose manner, of course. Moreover, it would mean that all those naive fools who marinate in false optimism can be put out of their misery, and I would not need to listen to their well meaning, but clearly naive statements, any more, like college teens that dreamed of a John Lennon world.

    So, please, with sugar on top, you know the game, I know your game, so stop kidding. One of those truths is that there can be no Palestinian state. The creation of such would only empower the people there, and take some of the power away from the Jews. They will not tolerate that. Moreover, the creation of such a state, to this cabal of arrogant popinjay's, would be seen as a humiliation and a defeat by them. They will not tolerate that either. You can wave as many bits of paper around as you want. Makes no odds. Why rejoice over that vote, when about 24hours later, they showed their arse to you, by way of announcing 3000 more settlments, and killing more people?

    What's to celebrate? Try visting the widows and kids with no parents, ask if they feel a cause to celebrate. Big deal if X number of nations say blah blah. That's all they ever do, say, talk, mumble, they never DO anything. So what about international law, and the UN and the Geneva convention. They have stuck two fingers up to it before, what makes you think they would stand by and let democracy create, of all things, a Palestinian state?

    This is an utterly deluded position to take and hope for, you are not doing anyone favours giving the people there false hope, by making out like Israeli's are ever going to seriously let this happen. Actually, you are doing them a cruelty. You are just not being honest about the full reality, and what is incrimetnally true, maybe because there is a % of you that still has a misplaced faith.

    Israel will NOT let it happen, and they would do ANYTHING to stop it, simple as that. And I mean ANYTHING. Apart from the reasons I gave before, it goes against what they really seek, and that is the second part of the truth, that they should really just tell the world...DON'T F**K WITH OUR GENOCIDE.

    Believing you can negotiate with this mindset is madness itself.
     
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    seems there is a high turnout

    does that mean there are more than expected zionist lunatics supporting Bibi the bomber?
     
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    I think that 'conflation' is by design. It's a 3-card monty game the Jews/Zionists/Israelis like to play on Americans.
     
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    anyone notice somethings missing in zionist regimes election map?

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    look how the zionist pigs leave the map off the Arabic election posters!

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    Eh...is the answer that there are not many born handicapped, in Israel, for some reason?
     
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    He is just coming out with it and saying as it is, though I don't know who he was speaking to.

    Last week I was reading an article by Moshe Machover. I think he might have hit the nail on the head. A two State solution would have given them peace. Why not accept. Yes, they want more land but he suggests there is another reason why Israel has not honoured Oslo. To do so would invalidate her argument for existence. They argue that they are the rightful people of the land of Israel. To give a State to the Palestinians undermines that. It shows that Palestine was already occupied when Israel came into being and that those are the rightful inhabitants of the land.

    http://www.israeli-occupation.org/2013-01-10/moshe-machover-israel-palestine-race-against-history/
     
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    Israel, in their arrogance, like to pretend to the World that American and European technologies were all their doing, and that somehow, were it not for them, we would all be labouring to get by. I mean, just where would we be without them to ensure they look after our banking, economy, body politic, media, and in the US, their entire foreign policy.

    What possible interest would the non Jewish majority of the World possibly have in enjoying a more balanced media, and more true, why on earth do we need to be bogged down with complex matters like Foreign policy, hey, if these kind people are good enough to give up their time to do all that boring paperwork, then what's wrong with that? What is wrong with essentially letting a tiny ethnic minority, who themselves are very ethno centric, have control over all of that?

    From the goodess of their hearts, these people, our friends, they not only take care of their own affairs, in Israel, they go out of their way to be good enough, to ensure that we do not need worry about managing our affairs either.

    And here I am, saying hateful things about them.

    Shame on me.
     
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    In relative terms to size, the elections there should be gathering about as much interest as the Latvian elections, of which I am sure would be paid no mind at all. The reason that such interest is taken in the elections of Israel, is what I am always saying, Zionist Jews have pushed themselves to the forefront of political thought, that has been their doing, they have gone out of their way to draw attention to themselves, be noticed, be heard, and be seen. To a level that is absurd to their number and size, I mean. It is not that the entire world woke up one day, and decided to pay attention to Israel, because they were Jews. It's the opposite - Zionist Jews themselves wanted to foist themselves, into the global eye.

    Not just within Israel either, no, they took it way beyond and past that. You cannot dress in a silver lycra suit, climb a lampost, then shout 'Don't stare' when people look!

    If there was a single Western leader with any balls today, what they would be telling you about nukes in that region, is that the only threat to the region, and beyond, to the World, are Israel, by way of them refusing to comply with anything. The world knows they have them, but they still behave like they have things to hide. This makes them a loose cannot esp when you factor in the often savage and disproportionate violence they engage in.

    Your leaders would be telling you that this cannot be accepted, and that this must change.

    But never mind that.

    Let's all just ignore that, and put the blame on Iran.:roll:
     
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    Jack , as you well know, Zionist Jews , from the start , had no inientionts ons of sharing the land - living in peace with indigenous non-Jew. They simply took advantage -= A) first of all - Western/European Gentile stupidities. - Jews (in general ) are'nt keen of sharing - anything . (they just cant control their natural greedy nature )

    B) Having exploited/used most Western sympathies / Holo-polo etc., they are now beginning to show true colours , BUT - sadly there are far too many in the West you can't see how they've been + continue being duped



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