Israeli elections

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Well, I would not expect a single Zionist owned media outlet in the US to give it a mention. That's for sure. They will just airbrush it right out, as they do with all things that are not palatable, to them. It may rate a mention in Haretz maybe, ironically a more honest and quality media source than almost any in the US. Press TV may cover it, but then you are aware, of course, that lying Zionists have been working around the clock to ensure that they are censored, right?
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Here Moon - I found this. It is a significant cabal of people, many Jews, who are asking good questions.

    Footage is in link;

    Americans have taken to the streets in Washington DC to condemn US President Barack Obama's ongoing financial support of Israel, as his country continues in its economic doldrums, Press TV reports.

    “We are providing a big part of the budget to a country...spending a lot of money in Israel and we are not asking any questions about how the money is being spent,” said Cathy Lisa Schneider, with the Jewish Voice for Peace, at a rally march held in the nation’s capital.

    Activists criticized the US for its incontestable financial support of Israel, particularly at a time when numerous polls also indicate that a majority of Americans are not in favor of the White House’s policies regarding the handling of the economic crisis.

    “We should question what is being done with that money and if the country is violating international law, domestic law,” added Schneider.

    The demonstrators went on to condemn Washington for supporting Israel’s aggression against the Palestinian people.

    “We are giving Israel aid to help the country to demolish other people, to demolish their homes, to obstruct peace,” said Ibrahim Oweiss a former professor at Georgetown University.

    Experts point out that US financial and military support of Israel has been deeply embedded in an ongoing cycle involving aspects of politics, business, and society.

    “Our tax dollars are going in and then that money is coming back to US contractors, US companies that in turn have a lot of lobbies that support US military aid to Israel,” a protester said.

    Conservative estimates put US aid to Israel at USD 123 billion since the late 1940s, but that number may be much higher due to indirect funding through various US agencies.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/20/284568/americans-slam-us-support-of-israel/

    This is good and it is also not good.

    Those speaking in the item are right, of course, and that is the good part.

    The not so good part is this. People are getting wise to these plutocrats and false Jews. It will reach a breaking point, and then I see societies all around Europe and N America, turning against it, and with force and aggression (we are SICK of this). My concern is that in their rage, which is building by the day, they will make no distinction between these false plutocratic Jews, and the Jews who are, in practice, on the same side as they are, broadly speaking.

    There are literally dozens of people I know personally, who previously had no interest in politics, or much knowledge about Jews, who are starting to say to me things like 'Jack, these Jews are stealing all the wealth and acting without impunity'. These plutocrats and false Jews are not going to stop, they do not know HOW to stop. At the same time, tens of millions of people are not going to accept this either, indeed, they will become more radical in their methods.

    I can see this ending bad, and the down side is this - it will probably be the plutocrats and fake Jews who, despite being the culpable party, who will be able to hide the best. This means, when the rage reaches it's inevitable destination, society is going to lash out at anything they see as plutocratic and Jewish. I can see that happening, inside a decade.

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    zionist are pigs

    Glad they werent jews!
     
  4. Abu Sina

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    I would suggest Kirchner prepare the Malvenas and dump Neytanyahu and his gang of thugs and killers along with their American fanatical supporters there after building a 100 metre high concrete wall all around the entire coastline to make sure they don't escape and the US can drop them food parcels every month if they want. After all Argentina was one of the UN options for their zion homeland. Dump them all there and we can get rid of them finally. Netanyahu can still be their PM and he can build as many settlements as he likes then out of any wood that washes ashore. :nod:
     
  5. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And we're suppose to believe people hate Muslims on this forum??

    This last couple pages have been nothing but you guys spewing mein kampf, asking yourselves what to do with the Jews when they get expelled from israel. Saying you don't want them in your country. Seems like you guys figured out the answer to the Jewish Question. Get the ovens started again.
     
  6. moon

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    That's at the back of Lieberman's ..er.....mind. Allow neoZionist fascism to win and he'll turn up with his matches.
     
  7. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know there's real suffering in this world. Palestine isn't even that bad to live in compared to a great majority of the world.
     
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    A systematic Israeli policy of near-starvation of the Palestinian people of Gaza and control of all land air, sea and space as well as a decades- long strategy of ethnic cleansing, is paradise.
     
  9. GodTom

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    Please if there were real ethnic cleansing going on we would know....

    I don't think you even know what ethnic cleansing really is.
     
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    The Israeli policy of ethnic cleansing is well documented, historically. I recommend you begin your research with the Israeli Jewish historian, Illan Pape. The clue is in the title of his seminal work, "The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine".
     
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    You count displacing people as ethnic cleansing?

    What are the number of murders that took place during this cleansing? Is it more then the 1 million Armenian christians? More than the 6 million who died in the concentration camps? More then the Native Americans who died to the hands of the Spanish?
     
  12. moon

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    Bollox. Palestinians are under the Zionist jackboot. It's arrogant swill to suggest that their condition must be tolerated for the greater comfort of degenerate invaders.
     
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    Classic whataboutery.
     
  14. moon

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    It's evident that your grasp of the term is poor.

    You don't ? :mrgreen:
     
  15. GodTom

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    Then please Correct me Moon. What is the definition of ethnic cleansing?

    Cause if that was really going on then the Israelis are terrible at it, because the Arab populations in Palestine and Israel just keeps rising!
     
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    His point is that since there's a huge Arab population in existence in Israel, ethnic cleansing isn't actually taking place. Whatever else is going on, EC can't be it.
     
  17. moon

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    That's a very simplistic calculation. Hasbara Central ? When the neoZionists kick a pregnant woman off her farm she delivers her child in one of the bantustans. The population rises but ethnic cleansing has taken place. Try to think of it in terms of transferring people out of their rightful lands rather than counting them for the purposes of scurrilous propaganda.
     
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    Ethnic cleansing is the process or policy of eliminating unwanted ethnic or religious groups by deportation, forcible displacement, mass murder, or by threats of such acts, with the intent of creating a territory inhabited by people of a homogeneous or pure ethnicity, religion, culture, and history.

    600,000-800,000 persons.

    Stupid question.
     
  19. moon

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    The ethnic cleansing has happened on a large scale already and is still happening every day in Palestine. In Israel the rate is slower, that's all.
     
  20. GodTom

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    So when the Arabs kicked the Jews out of the Arab states that was ethnic cleansing too?
     
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    and there is real suffering going on in Palestine. People having their homes destroyed or taken over by settlers, people without the basics of life which are diverted to settlers, people suffering from having their orchards burnt down by settlers, people killed at the wire or checkpoints, people taken from their bed in the dead of night sometimes minors without an adult to protect them...and sometimes just for fun or military training, people degraded and stopped at checkpoints whenever they walk a few yards, a system of apartheid....and that is all before the problems they have with the PA answering to Oslo, doing Israel's heavy work with no two states.

    Then we have these same people who have lived like this for getting on 50 years being pushed into a smaller and smaller place. We have a settler comes along and starts and outpost on a Palestinian's land. There goes that man's livelihood for his family. The settlement although at this time even Israel will say it is illegal, is immediately connected to water and electricity and has soldiers guarding it for god knows, the person who owned it might come and try and get his legal property back. Of course if Palestinians do the very same thing on their own land which has been appropriated by the Israels as we saw in Bab Al-Shams we see the exact opposite happening and the army does not provide any electricity, water or protection, rather it removes the villagers causing injuries and not complying to Israel's own Supreme Court.

    There is a lot to protest about, not least that these people claim to be Western and wish Western Support. They have no respect for international Law - you can even see them boasting about it in posts here. Oh shall I get started on Gaza. How about being shot while you try to work your land or catch some fish. 5 Gaza people have been shot at the wire since Israel's last demolition order, none of them a threat and no rocket has been fired in response. They live in a place where whenever Israel believes it is politically a good time she will raid and kill someone almost always killing and injuring others, frequently young children at the same time. Have you any idea the amount of trauma the people and particularly the children of Gaza have been through. Then of course 10% of the children have stunted growth due to malnutrition and since the last demolition job I hear the Gazan's have been subject to a continuous melody of sonic booms to make sure they do not relax. That is a tiny fraction of what these people put up with every day for the last fifty years. In Israel herself we see that there is not equality between all citizens,

    Enough is enough. We would not tolerate this anywhere else. Here we have a responsibility for aiding and abetting. If we do nothing to stop this we are responsibility for every innocent child or adult who is killed and for every violation of human rights which they endure every day.

    Now they are claiming they are going to steal all the Palestinian Land. One of Bennett's 'Home Front' has even suggested blowing up the Dome of the Rock!

    We have a responsibility because without us none of this would have happened.

    It has gone one step too far now and Israel has shown that she does not, and I would say never did have any intention of a two State solution. This is where it will end, with Trade bans and boycotts until justice is done or until the Israeli people themselves force their government to honour the promises their government made at Oslo.

    Israel does not want peace because peace means no more land.
     
  22. moon

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    Some of it, no doubt. Most of that was in retaliation for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in the lead up to, during and after the 1948 War. Zionism was very bad for those jews, you see, as well as catastrophic for Palestinians.

    None of that detracts from the fact that Zionists are STILL ethnically cleansing Palestinians NOW .

    http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/i...-january-2012&catid=84:weekly-2009&Itemid=183
     
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    You guys are belittling the word. Like the terms Racism and Fascism, people just throw those words out there when they're not even warranted.
     
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    In the case of neoZionist Israel the terms ' racist ', ' fascist ' and ' ethnic cleansers ' all find a home. They wanted a fascist homeland, that's what they've got.
     
  25. Jack Napier

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    Well, to be fair, there are 2500 people living on those islands, and that + it is too close to civilians in Argentina = would not be my first option.

    So here's a better one. We have a ready made complex at Camp Delta, in which people found guilty of nothing, are being left there, to die. I suggest we empty that complex, and use it. Lest it prove not to be large enough, it can be upsized. Or better still - the North Pole. A place that is very isolated and away from normal society.

    Now, I would start at the very top, and work my way down. I would place a special international arrest warrant on the families like Dankur, Sasoon, Rothschilds, Goldsmiths. It is from their defective minds that the poison spreads. I cannot even begin to cite all the many crimes against humanity, that those three familes alone have caused, down the years, and still today. So, I would begin with all of those familes, there are about 200 or so in total. Naturally, since we have been taught this way, there would be no question of legal representation for them, nor any due process. Render them all, without limit of time. Naturally, secret evidence, by secret witnesses is also acceptable, another thing we have been taught is fine. :peace:

    Since waterboarding and advanced interrogation techhniques(sic) are not 'torture' (another thing they have taught us), having secured the arrest of all of them, such methods can then be deployed to extract from them all their associates, and partners in crime. Then we arrest those that they have named.

    We repeat these acceptable methods, until such a time that we have secured all of those who have been the most complicit in their crimes against all of mankind.

    At this point, we still would not even be close to the level that your Benny's etc, would be at, they are way down the list. Errand boys. But they would not get a free pass either, we would get to them. Thus, all Zionist politicians, be they in Israel or beyond, who had been complicit, they can join the aforementioned.

    All those in their miliary who had issued illegal orders, and who are still alive, they can go as well.

    I would overlook the citizens of Israel, unless of course they have been citizens who have been directly involved in crimes against mankind. But by and large, most of them have simply been misled fools, brainwashed and indoctrinated. It is possible that most of them could be deZionsed, and fit back in to normal society. Plus, you have a % who are probably actually good people, not really any more culpable than the German people that just so happened to be alive, at the peak of Nazi Germany.

    That is my being fraternal there, and giving the benefit of the doubt, I mean, millions of German citizens WERE murdered, for simply living under NS, so by giving their citizens a pass, I am giving more than was given to the German people.

    Or the Iraqi people, who did NOTHING wrong, and were murdered by the thoughts and orders of these types of bastards.

    Naturally, since most if not all of those I cite, have gotten rich from theft, their assets would be turned over, and a % of it used to build their complex, and sustain their food etc. We could do this cheaply with GM food, since that is 'very safe', and there are no risks...

    Since none of these bastards has probably done an honest days work in their life, they could spend the rest of their days doing manual labour.

    There is no reason why this is not just.
     

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