Blatant lies. Really. It is true that Arab parties are never part of the coalition, but that's the case since - 1. The coalition is usually rightwing 2. When there is a leftwing coalition, the last thing the left wants is to return parts of israel to the palestinians on arab voting. That will be a major issue. About Jewish left in Israel - Meretz is jewish left. Shelly Yachimovich and Yair Lapid, openly support the settlers ???? Yair lapid has a catch phrase - "Where is the money?", arguing that money is going to the ultra orthodox and settlers instead of the regular israelis. You do not seem to understand that in the leftwing israeli society, there is no hate for settlers. We think that the settler movement is wrong, We wish do end it by having a palestinian nation, but we dont view them as Evil, or the spawn of satan , as most of you do.
You ought to check out the the thread on ' This week's Israel Terrorism '. The squatters are vicious, criminal ********s and the policy of accomodating them has cost thousands of lives. http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/146463-weeks-israeli-terrorism-43.html You'll be assimilating them back into what passes as your ' society ' soon enough. They won't be staying in Palestine.
Some of them are, yes. But most are not. Just like in every society, there are bad seeds, and the rest. You should try looking at the world a little less in black vs white, good vs bad, etc. There is a lot of grey area, and middle ground. I do not view all palestinians as "vicious, criminal ********s " because a bus exploded next to my house by a palestinian terrorist. You should try doing the same.
I personally would not waste my time with a so called 'Christian Zionist'. Have you ever read a single ONE of them sound goodly, or with virtue? No - me neither. It is totally artificial, and I only hope that they do not believe their own afterlife fables, because if those were true...they are in for a dissapointment. They are idolators for one thing. Listen to the way they speak and write. They could not be more far removed from the teachings of their own prophet, indeed, they are the exact polar opposite. You could say, in essence, what they really are is 'anti christian'. Now, I am not religous, however, does not mean I know not of it. And I 100% know that their prophet said that they ONLY way to 'heaven' was through him (his teachings). I do no recall him saying 'The only way is to forget me, abandon all the principles I spoke of, and replace me with a material construct called Israel'. Do you? Or the part in which their prophet tells them that they only way is through blindly following 'Jews', most of home are Eastern European ashkenazi Jews? Christian Zionists are an insult, to both Christianity and Judaism, as it happens. As to 'Jews', the best advice to them that I have, was actually given to me, via a Jewish women. Her words were that Jews only purpose here is to worship god, plain and simple. That the problems begin when they look at the non Jewish world, and want to be like us. They want to be 'secular', and not pay mind to their dietary laws, etc. Well, what she said was that these 'Jews' should stop trying to be as we are, as attractive as it may appear to them. A Jew should not go out on a Friday night, and have pepperoni pizza, as a for instance, by doing so, they are violating their own religion. She said that Jews have something like over 600 commandments that they must follow, and that they have strayed way too far from that, and the further they do, they worse it gets for them. She said that Jews should return to intense study of Torah, and she ended by telling me that the 'Jews' have made a grave error by doing things like trying to take over the banking systems etc, and that in doing so, they are going to fall big time. Anyway, just some thoughts to share with you. Have a good day, Jack
No occupation = no resistance to occupation. You bring such things upon your sorry selves. Many more Israelis will die because of your squatters. You can save lives by complying with international law.
Well I think I have the drift of your way of arguing. A different presentation to your own is a lie. Same of, same of. blocked minds. which simply indicates that as the article says there is no opposition. Israeli politicians are all right wing. Democracy is for all the people. Israel cannot be said to be a democracy when it's Knesset is set up to refuse the voice of some citizens. and indeed it is. I have heard this time and again including an Israeli whose political persuasion is the opposite of mine. He would like money for housing where he lives in Israel but instead the money is offering irresistible deals to entice people to become settlers so that Israel may achieve this and even more the next Governments intention of illegally taking over the West Bank and making a two state solution impossible. For this Israel is going totally against International Law and this may well result in the end of Trade to Israel as to trade with a country which is acting in such an illegal way is itself against International Law. You do not know it but in your arrogance you are committing suicide. So what? The article did not say they were evil. I did not say there were evil. I do not even use the term evil. Allowing the policies which permit them to settle, shows lack of morality however and that lack of morality will destroy Israel. As I said, you are as a country committing suicide.
Like I've said before, how come you never see ONE having a political discussion online? Probably for much the same reasons that you cite here.
I sometimes check out the Israeli papers since one day I hope to live there, well as long as Jerusalem is not partitioned by rIslamics and their handlers, if that happens I will leave tomorrow if hired as a mercenary, i.e. a PsyOps specialist, (fingers crossed). My application is already been sent. Anyway see how easy it is to get off topic? Even the above was not entirely off topic. The on topic rule is a good one for keeping the discussion at least in the ballpark. The problem arises when moderation becomes too strict, because commenting on any subject can necessarily entail going off on many tangents to explain our ideas or proping up our rebuttals etc of the OT. reva
If it was only that simple moon. You are simplifying a situation that is way more complicated than that.
As a goy you won't be welcomed, but instead viewed with suspicion. If you honestly think you'll be hailed as some kind of fearless Crusader warrior come to save Jerusalem for God, you really are living in cloud cuckoo land but, hey, knock yourself out...lol!
By saying that your source is lying i am a locked mind? Excuse me, but are you living here, or am I? How did you come to the conclusion that there is no opposition? I said that the arab parties are not a part of the coalition. They are the opposition when there is a right wing government, along with the labor, meretz and all other leftwing parties. Check out the rightwing Merav Michaeli. Or Zehava Galon. You really have no real understanding about Israeli politics. That is not the topic now. tha topic was that your 972 mag said that yair lapid favors settlers. Lie. You are expecting Israeli politicians to handle settlers as if they were Evil incarnated, just as you believe they are. Well, What a surprise, they dont.
Jack, i know that you like speculating, and throwing accusations without evidence, but come on... You can read why they dont vote in the link i posted.
But it actually really is that simple, and only those with selfish agendas choose to complicate matters unnecessarily. The fundamental root of the problem is the Occupied Territories and continued Israeli expansion into Palestinian land. If you retreat into Israel (you know, your own land), and stop the settlers stealing other's property you won't be meeting violent resistance. Do you think the French Resistance would have been killing Germans if they had not occupied France?
I don't think it is the goy part they would be most bothered about, do you? It's the rest. Psy-op's? ROFLMAO. - - - Updated - - - Not vote. This is what I find odd. How come you never see ONE having a political discussion online?
So you are saying that there werent any clashes prior to 67? Why was the PLO created in 64? why did we have fedayun crossing our borders to kill israelis? This is over simplifying, and you know it. The only way for this to be true, is if israel did not exist. As long as it exists, this is a complicated matter.
Have you tried joining arab speaking forums? Maybe their lack of english speakers makes it hard for them to join online forums that use english?
No, I don't speak Arabic, so it would be no use to me. I would be looking at shapes, as I would if it were written in Hebrew. Israeli Arabs must learn English at school, same as you, do they not?
I guess they do, but i really dont know. I do know that most of them do not speak english as well as israeils.
I'm not gonna start asking random people on the street if they learned english at school... You could do the same via the internet - search some facebook pages from arab israelis and ask them...
Did you guys see this??? [video=youtube;SwqTY1oJcjs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SwqTY1oJcjs[/video] Now I know who i'm going to vote for!
I'd love to live in Israel. I've visited Tel Aviv and Jerusalem several times and it is a beautiful country, rich in history and very friendly people. I'd love to live near the Negev. Perhaps someday...
