You'll be lucky The Zionist electoral system and its participants are under scrutiny. Nice try, old chap. [
If you merely wish to restrict your knowledge to learning about each party or candidate, from just an 'Israeli perspective', then why not look on Haretz, Times of Israel, or J Post? There you would be able to fill your boots on such information, from your desired 'Israeli perspective', and they also have a comments section in which you can ask those who are Israeli. Just a thought, since you seem to now want to constrict it to an 'Israeli perspective'. This is an open forum to all, not there for constricting it to one perspective. Sorry
Like I said, Stuart, leaving aside that hysterical retort, this is an international forum - it follows you will get an international perspective. Since there are not many self identified Israeli's on forums, i can think of three that I am aware of, and since it is an international forum, if you seek ONLY an Israeli perspective, then sure, go where you are most likely to find JUST that. I have suggested some mainstream online media you can read up about it on, and there is a comments section in each, in which you will get your desired Israeli only perspective, that you state you want. If you want information on the detail of the candidates only, and even then, from an Israeli perpective, rather than tell everyone that is not an Israeli, and who wants to give their perspective to not do so, and even start the somewhat low trick of MODS MAY AS WELL CLOSE THE THREAD, then all of that information is out there, and from the Israeli only perspective that you only want. See? Or you could PM one of the Israeli's on here. Cheers, Jack
Nah, if I were hysterical, I'd use all caps. Or a funny picture of someone screaming. The problem is that if you look at just the first page of this thread, NO ONE was discussing the Israeli elections at all. It's not just a question of other nationals discussing it, there wasn't anyone from anywhere doing so. It's as if the World Affairs part of PF is having some kind of bizarro contest to see who can derail a thread the fastest. And I asked for an Israeli to talk about it since no one else here was. I'm not even sure why this thread even exists at this point; right now it's just another "Pin the Tail on the Zionist" thread. Someone PM me when an actual discussion breaks out about the actual topic.
Well, in the absence of that, why not offer your own thoughts? Or you could read up on each candidate, if you wish, then share those thoughts? We all shape the thread, good, bad or otherwise, it is not a newspaper, to which we must place up statistical data, and one that you cannot contribute to, that is the beauty, all and anyone can here, so perhaps there is a particular aspect, or element or comment that you would like to offer to show us how it should be done?
Here you go, Stuart, Israeli public opinion, re the elections, in a Israeli source, with Israeli names cited.. Enjoy..http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...st-israelis-disagree-netanyahu-iran-poll.html Also some apparent friction here...http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...hu-wasted-3bn-iran-attack-plan-former-pm.html Bit of a petulant and somewhat amazing outburst here..http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...row-strains-ties-ahead-israeli-elections.html And Israeli born Jew, Gilad Atzmon shares the deeper political truths here..http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/283870-gilad-atzmon-truth-teller.html Hope that helps.
i didnt notice jack, play nice. Do you have to insinuate that zionist are nazi? Please, you need to ashkanazi about that Perhaps, cus they just may have that nazi in their blood, just as they claim their religion is now that is something to discuss on israeli politics; no more US funding to the swine. that is kind of cute; the US is selling planes to both sides of the divide (war)? Am I to actually believe that the US is just using the stupid zionist and jewish homeland (egypt), to perhaps watch them blow each other up, with our weapons? I could never believe that businessmen are that smart.
(Bishadi replying to HB's post); There was a piece in PF, which a member plagiarized (with permission I suppose) off the net where an expert relates this ; 'authors that insist on using the Nazi card are as bad as the Nazis themselves' , or words to that effect. However seeing that you have already opened that can of worms I must ask; Why do you compare the Jewish nation and those that want to retain their Jewish nation, as the very hairballs that attempted to slaughter every Jewish person on earth , i.e. The Nazi 's ???? The goons of WW2 Germany* attempted and almost succeeded in the genocide of the Jewish people? If, and I mean IF (because I don’t believe anyone would say such things intentionally) you are making those statements with full knowledge of history, and IF you know what such statements mean, well sir, that is an example of the absolute pinnacle of callousness and heartlessness I have seen displayed on this forum. Btw all the above considered, please explain the bolding in your post of 'ashkanazi' ? Again that seems a ignorant (lack of knowledge) statement, so I will again ask for your help. Exactly who do you mean by ‘they’? What do you mean by saying that ‘they’ have Nazi in ‘their’ religion? What religion are you referencing? The remainder of your reply was somewhat understandable so I will address it in a separate ‘reply box’. The purpose of this reply is to clarify statements so I can answer those statements etc which will be on topic when I receive clarification. Thanks in advance Bishadi. reva
Again, you are forgetting that the USA while having a secular government over three fourths of Americans choose to be CHRISTIAN and pro ISRAEL? Btw, I do not think its a coincidence that we are the last remaining superpower*. Nor is it a coincidence that the USA was the number one superpower of history, and that includes all history. No, the truth that the USA who protects Israel like a momma grizzly bear protecting her cubs is the most powerful superpower the world has ever known isnt a coincidence. Likewise it's not a coincidence that the USA is just chunk full of the Christian Gods faithful**, its a Godincidence. The USA will continue to protect and serve*** Israel and God for the foreseeable future, so the swine is on the other hand eh? * The USA rose from nothing to fend off the worlds superposers at the time to become the most powerful most successful superpower on earth. It, we ie the USA could have ruled the world, at least one or two times in history. Isnt it strange that we and other English speaking nations protected and created Israel? No it is prophesy being fulfilled. ** Many times when the name of the Christian God is published the name used is often wrong. Actually the correct name is YHWH or lol read on. When God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM; and He said, Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you that is God speaking his name. In the Hebrew language the letters are yod, he, vav, he, and is how we get the name YHWH. Its sometimes sloppily translated into the English word Jehovah. Hebrew has no j sound a more accurate name of God would be Yahweh. Hmm the PRIVATELY owned corporations (armsmakers) of most nations etc do sell to anyone that has the money. Does that somehow surprise you? If the buyers of USA made warcraft goodies are the same dummies that hate Israel and the USA would they not be double dummies to buy their stuff from those that they have a beef with? I would love to sell Iran all their air force needs such as biplanes or even better strike jets with corrupted electronics or maybe sidewinders that tracks and destroys the plane that launches it! Now that would be a very good thing for the world! Again a meaningless and well, iggy (lack of knowledge) statement when taken as a whole. Why? Not all Zionests trace their homeland back to Israel and Egypt (maybe none do). Dont you know we Zionists are everywhere? EEK! Lol. . The distant ancestors might be said to been enslaved by Egypts ancient dictatorial leaders but its not our homeland. They are smarter than the average islamofascist, well a rank moron is smarter than the average islamofascist. reva
stuart and everyone else who is interested - The saddest thing is that in the last poll on friday, Yediot Acharonot, the biggest Israeli paper showed that in reality, the left/right in israel have the same number of votes, if you exclude Ultra religious and arab parties, and that is 46 mandates for both. The problem is that the % of voters in the ultra orthodox community is 90%, and the % of voters in the Arab community is only 40%. So the ultra orthodox get 17 mandates while the arabs just 11. And that's why the right keeps winning. (you may wanna ask - why arent the arabs voting? is it because they are being raped/killed/abused/ethnically clenased/choose your hate phrase here? No They are not voting, because when they do vote, they usually vote for arab parties. but the arab parties care only about palestinians, and not israeli arabs. So the israeli arabs stopped voting). - - - Updated - - - stuart and everyone else who is interested - The saddest thing is that in the last poll on friday, Yediot Acharonot, the biggest Israeli paper showed that in reality, the left/right in israel have the same number of votes, if you exclude Ultra religious and arab parties, and that is 46 mandates for both. The problem is that the % of voters in the ultra orthodox community is 90%, and the % of voters in the Arab community is only 40%. So the ultra orthodox get 17 mandates while the arabs just 11. And that's why the right keeps winning. (you may wanna ask - why arent the arabs voting? is it because they are being raped/killed/abused/ethnically clenased/choose your hate phrase here? No They are not voting, because when they do vote, they usually vote for arab parties. but the arab parties care only about palestinians, and not israeli arabs. So the israeli arabs stopped voting).
that crap on top was not of anything i posted, yet it is quoted as from me. remove it punk! israel is the only country on earth with a 1.8 million soul concentration camp, firing phosphorus weapons on them, and get away with it. thank you i like knowing that i am equal to any. I could be good israeli, if i wanted eh? Do you have a reading problem? Read it over than ask you r question. That one was kind of cute.
slap either one, supporting what you claim, on site! china is invisible hand (adam smith 1776) the beast of many heads land between 2 seas it's all in the prophecies. and then SOBS that you claim as doing right are why the US is no longer THE super power. read dan 7:8 when the three horn are pulled, no more religious wingnuts.
Comparisons with hairballs? Let me see... 1. Land theft for lebensraum and the illegal occupation of that land 2. Walled-in ghettos with armed watchtowers 3. Violent victimisation of those following a different faith 4. Control of the population's egress and ingress 5. Destruction of property 6. Destruction of the means of making a living 7. Forbidding trade with the outside world 8. Control of Palestinian access to power, food imports and water 9. Violent expulsion and forced eviction of civilians from their homes 10. War crimes, including the use of prohibited weapons, using civilians as human shields, the murder of women and children. That's just off the top of my head; does any of that sound vaguely familiar? I have no doubt that those more knowledgeable will add to the list. And meanwhile the world looks on, mutters a few words of mild disapproval and does nothing. Does that also sound familiar? Oh, I forgot the little matter of genocide. I suggest you look up 'Sabra and Shatila' for more details of these scum you so idolize. No, I'll do it for you:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
You guys are doing this again. You have to understand that these things are destructive to the palestinian cause. You can say many things about isral, or israeli behaviour towards palestinians, but going with the nazi analogy is really really not helping.
Uri, if the shoe fits... I'm sorry, but if it takes continuous and ongoing public disclosure of the way the scum currently infecting your government operate, then I for one won't stop until they are voted out, gone and humans take their place.
I dont like the occupation, i also think that my current government is, (not scum), but doing bad things for us. But again, Nazi analogy? Counter productive, really.
Evidence, please. It's well known that arabs are ' second-class citizens ' within a racist Israeli State . This implies that they do not vote because they are despondent /intimidated.
The problem I hear is that there is no Jewish left in Israel. What do you think of this http://972mag.com/bibi-can-relax-the-center-left-is-really-with-the-right/64093/ Note that although they come to the conclusion Israel is going to have the most far right party ever, although they decide it will be authoritarian but not democratic, rather than fascist, they still consider fascist and that is the edge on which your country stands. The other problem on a democratic level is that there is no party which works for Israel regardless of ethnicity despite Hadash having some Jewish members. This would be something which would be found unacceptable in Western Societies. http://972mag.com/vote-for-arab-jewish-parties-or-dont-vote-at-all/63391/
I have evidence in hebrew, which will not help you much - http://www.idi.org.il/ספרים-ומאמרים...השתתפותם-של-הערבים-אזרחי-ישראל-בבחירות-לכנסת/ All the articles that i found in english are interviews with arab party leaders who will never say thet this is the reason. (but i did found something - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/w...ut-israeli-democracy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 "With Israel heading to the polls on Tuesday, the two intensifying sources of apathy are raising new concerns here over the health of Israeli democracy. Experts say a social media campaign to boycott the election and a growing frustration with Arab lawmakers’ focus on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rather than local concerns like crime, poverty and unemployment, threaten to depress Arab turnout below 50 percent. ")
