He said I could not resist The negev of course is a different particular problem within Israel itself - unlike what most of your politicians seem interested in, illegally taking and keeping other land. However the Negev is not without it's problems. Ben Gurion had believed it was really important to use this land but you have difficulties with Bedouins who have been living there since time began and are of course part of history. You are destroying their villages and moving them to new ones which they do not like and which have much violence and unemployment. I don't know if you can get this is Israel but if you can, Newsnight did a bit on it a few nights ago http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21041897 He also mentioned Jerusalem. If he includes East Jerusalem, then without question that is Palestine suffering dreadfully from people being thrown out of their houses so that Settlers can get into their still warm beds, an issue which thankfully is being addressed both by Palestinians and by Israelis with conscience. But, as I say, I was responding to him mentioning history. It is also becoming somewhat like it was in the past though with Israel supporting a Government which wants to take over land which does not belong to it, something I believe which will lead to the end of the Jewish dream, which with all respect I do not think was workable anyway. It is impossible to have such an idea without being racist, so impossible as a modern Western Nation. The 'Jewish State' was from the ideology of 18th 19th C Europe. It doesn't any more belong to Western Liberal Democratic thinking and possibly the result of that is obvious in it's move further and further to the right so that now it is not unusual to hear people describing Israel's Government as fascist.
I have no arab friends, if this is what you are asking, and in my place of work, there are no arabs that i know. After so many years of hate and mistrust, you wont find many israeli/arab friends.
Well darling, it had relevance. Your problem would appear to be the inability to face reality and the desire to give quick insults rather than respond to full answers given to your questions. I do appreciate that you don't have them so try to get away with a quick quirk which you hope will belittle the person you are speaking to due to your inability to answer points put to you. Sad.
Not my first priority. Peace first, friends later. - - - Updated - - - The only relevance it has is that every post that someone posts here, has relevance to the issue, in your eyes. Which makes it tiring, in the end.
Things are not as black and white as you want them to be jack. A few years ago, in my previous place of work, my boss was an israeli arab. When his mother died we wanted to come to his house, to pay respect. He called us and asked us not to, as he cannot vouch for our safety in the arab neighberhood he is living in. So, as i said, not black and white.
Judging by the security overkill for El Al at any world airport nobody can vouch for the safety of Zionists. Marked by their criminal behaviour that's how it will remain.
and you need to ask yourself why things are like that. I am sure you already know the answers but basically it is to do with social justice. Israel needs to learn it can live with it's arab people and it needs to live with them on equal rights, which is not the case now. Oslo needs to be honoured and those Jews who are settlers who have not acted criminally towards Palestinians can get Palestinian citizenship. Otherwise, the road you are headed, with all your 'what if, what if (another of your posts) is going nowhere except the eventual end of Israel after a long time of suffering through trade bans and what not during which the rich, the academic and the artistic, indeed most who can, will leave. I am surprised you live in Israel and take the time to come to a political forum but have not taken the time to find out what people are doing who genuinely want peace. Here is how some people are working on it. [video=youtube;lggPqu525Gg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lggPqu525Gg[/video] again from another post - you say you want peace before friendship. I would suggest peace only comes when you act towards others with friendship. You have your choice. You can choose '67 boundaries or you can lose Israel. If you look into the human rights of the Palestinians, then it is only without conscience that you can stand by and say 'what if' or 'what can I do.?' Peace is possible but peace cannot happen unless you work for all of your citizens on an equal level - then of course you do not know the future like everyone else but you may at last become a genuine cohesive country.
I would vote Likud or another right-wing party sicne I agree with there economic views. But my foreign policy views are more in line with Kadima.
True Torah Jews out yesterday in mass protest in Jerusalem calling for an election boycott chanting "ZIONISM is against JUDAISM"
Hi Abu, Is there any sort of news link, to go with the pic? There looks to be literally tens of thousands of them. I wonder though - if they are living in Israel, are they not, by definition, adding to the problem? Would they not be better served not living there, and using their collective lobbying and money to apply pressure from the outside?
Israelis are fully aware that the fascists in the Knesset are acting illegally. Should they return those same fascists for another term of ethnic cleansing, as is expected, then they should be punished collectively. This punishment should take the form of exclusion from the world of normal relationships with other countries and organisations- not the murderous collective punishment inflicted upon Palestinians by Israel's insane leadership. The world must turn its back on Israelis per se .
I think it is good they live there and protest and let people see what the Real Jews think of Zionism and all the trouble it has caused not just to us and our region but to Jews themselves. There is a big community of them in New York and London and other places though. Once the zionist pigs are gone the REAL JEWS can live there like they did before with the Muslims and Christians in peace. We can finally have peace.
I'd expected at least one media outlet to run this story, at some point today then. Probably one of the few media outlets left that Zionists are trying to censor. That all being said, I repeat.. I wonder though - if they are living in Israel, are they not, by definition, adding to the problem? Would they not be better served not living there, and using their collective lobbying and money to apply pressure from the outside?
Even if that were to happen, where are those Zionist pigs(sic) going to go? The US? Or Europe? Or someplace else? I don't want more of them here, I don't want them here at all. All of that being said, I am seeing a get out card being prepared for them. Noticing little signs all the time. The words of Kissinger, the increased ease in which they can get visa's to the US, and, worse, of all, their buying up of infrastructure in Greece, sold to them by sell out bastard in Greece, who need to be removed from office, by force if need be, I may suggest. And, to stay with the theme of this, even if so, they may go, but they will still exist, won't they? Which, even were 'Israel' no longer what it has been, would probably mean they would mutate and reform into troublemakers somewhere else, or on the back of something else.
Hmmmm. Let me know if you find anything. http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/jews-protest-against-israel-and-zionism/ 1/6/2013 London Anti-Zionism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism
