Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

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Should we arm the Palesitians to fight off aggression like we did Ukraine

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    All I see is that you're not disputing a thing and so are conceding to what Israeli Jews on average stand for and what Israel does.
     
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    The IDF and it's government refuses to comply to any kind of independent inquiry. So that's a totally red flag that they aren't truthful. We're talking about an army and a government who flat out refuse to comply with a basic principle of international law about not to colonize occupy land. It's on par with ethnic cleansing.

    While the fact is that Israel and it's army have deliberately targeted mosques, hospitals and even UN buildings,... all full with civilians and so in total disregard of all those innocent people. It's just like the last spat between Israel and I think it was Islamic State. They just blew up entire apartment buildings with everybody in. There are images this happened when people including children were just carelessly walking by outside. It's all totally and clearly out of proportion, if they killed a terrorist like that. But that's a person who got killed without any kind of trial. Israel produces no evidence about that. Israel also produces no evidence the terrorist was even there to begin with. So all we got is Israel blowing up a building with civilians.

    I also do recall Israel/IDF claiming they were not using a WMD on Gaza. While they were. This went on for weeks on end, until the damning images showed that they were. They changed their story at that point that it was justified to use white phosphorous to cause a smoke screen for their choppers. Which is bull. A chopper blows away that smoke in a split second. And like magic, Israel is no longer doing that because who needs a smoke screen, right? FYI, WP burns when in contact with oxygen. And you breath in that crap, burning civilians from inside out. That's what Israel did for years on end before smart phones images exposed what they were doing.

    Do note. Journalists are not allowed to go and see. An other red flag.
     
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  3. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    The war is over. The Palestinians just don't know it yet.
     
  4. Dayton3

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    White phosphorous is NOT a WMD. Those kinds of claims are why the IDF doesn't want foreign press hounding them.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White Phosphorous is a banned chemical weapon .. its use on people a violation .. of treaty/agreement/ International Law.

    So what if its not a WMD .. not that you have supported that nonsense statement to begin with .. Tis a "Violation" one of many .. that Israel continues to produce on the world stage. A rogue nation that needs to be reigned in .. all this wanton slaughter of civlians and innocent children .. for which you care not .. unless its the Abortion issue .. in which case yer all wanting to do everything in your power to protect the lives of the innocent .. playing both sides of the fence when its convenient .. a switch hitter aye mate !?
     
  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope.
    The use of incendiary and other flame weapons against matériel, including enemy military personnel, is not directly forbidden by any treaty.
    White phosphorus munitions - Wikipedia
     
  7. Dayton3

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    Prove it. And you openly said that it is not a WMD so how do you reconcile that?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Against Civilians during a military operation I believe it is a no no ..
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think your glasses need checking once again ..
     
  10. Jack Hays

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    So long as you're aiming at the military target you're in the clear. US military has a protocol to determine whether possible civilian impact outweighs the importance of a military target.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Civilian Impact Protocol" - your a funny fellow .. "If they are brown - mow them down" is the protocol.
     
  12. Jack Hays

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    Nope. No force in history has done more to minimize civilian casualties than the US military.
     
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    prove it with a U.S. military source.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not about US military protocol -- so .. what "in the clear" are you referring to ?
    Prove what .. and why would you think the military would serve as a source .. that would be like asking a a criminal if they are guilty .. The difference between reality and fantasy , once again you have failed to discern
     
  15. Dayton3

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    You're just assuming the U.S. military acts like "criminals".
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No assuming required .. Only someone who is Historically illiterate can't come up with at least a few examples of the boys over at the Pentagon acting like criminals.. Don't be trying to tar our soldiers with Rotten Ronnie's dirty deeds .. showing further lack of understanding

    Thought you were some kind of History teacher ? What a joke that would be . a History teacher who can't come up with one example of the US engaging in criminal behavoir on the international stage.

    Would that be you D ? Were you that History prof that had no idea of US criminality on the high seas .. be it Pentagon, CIA, Our fearless Bureaucracy .. and sometimes our soldiers although normally the guilt lies on the ones giving the orders.

    Floor is yours D .. Tell us that you can't come up with one example of criminality.
     
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    Yeah, here's an example of American criminality. The USA and Russia sign a treaty, ie Outer Space, Chemical and Biological Weapons or Medium Range Missiles.
    Russia merrily goes on its way blowing up satellites, stalking satellites etc.. Developing and using chemical weapons and developing and fielding medium range missiles. America walks away from the treaties and 'breaks the law.'
    So it's the same ol' same ol' - America's enemies violate the 'law' (think of Vietnam peace deal 1975) but if America does the same it's a 'law breaker.' So the USA fights against Islamists, Fascists and Communist with one hand behind its back.
     
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    I can find many examples of the U.S. military committing criminal acts. Probably more than you can.'

    But that doesn't make them "criminals" overall.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Makes who criminals overall ? .. The US military isn't a person .. and why are you once again trying to tar all our soldiers with criminal acts by a few ?

    You switch sides of the fence from one post to the next . First you pretend the US has not committed criminal acts .. now you claim to able to find many criminal acts.
     
  20. Dayton3

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    I never posted that. Not once.
     
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    See your previous post above. As is common with your posts .. you forget what you say from one post to the next .. the deceiver unable to remember their own deceit is a possible rational.
     
  22. Jack Hays

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    Sorry, but your post shows he's correct and your claim was false.
     
  23. Jack Hays

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    I read. Therefore I know your claim was false.
     
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    As long as you're spouting falsehoods I'll be here to call you out.
     
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    Thats good D .. but we were not talking them kind of logs .. Talking the foul logs from Rotten Ronnie - the history of which "obviously you know nothing about" :)
     
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