Israel's bombing of Gaza apartment buildings could be a war crime

You see, Israelis (Jews, Christians, Druze, Arabs etc) belong to Western ideas about humanity and the Enlightenment.
1 - Deliberately killing a little girl becomes a real issue to the IDF
2 - Killing a little girl become a political bonanza to the Islamists for "love death, not life"

 

Agree in general with opening statement .. but the rest is a big steaming pile

1) IDF kill 10 times the number of "little girls" than Israel
2) Made up nonsense -- which would be meaningless in the context even if it were true.

But, regardless of what average Jews or Christians or Arabs hold for ideals .. Your ideals are the same as that of the Islamist .. same idiological garbage .. different pile

 

The place to start:
Ô Jérusalem! by Larry Collins, Dominique Lapierre | Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com › show › 108925._J_rusalem

This book recounts, moment by moment, the process that gave birth to the state of Israel. Collins & Lapierre weave a tapestry of shattered hopes, valor & fierce pride as the Arabs, Jews & British collide in their fight for control of Jerusalem. O Jerusalem! meticulously recreates this historic struggle. It penetrates the battle from the inside, exploring each party's interests, intentions & concessions as the city of their dreams teeters on the brink of destruction. From the Jewish fighters & their heroic commanders to the Arab chieftain whose death in battle doomed his cause along with the Mufti of Jerusalem's support for Hitler and the extermination of the Jews, but inspired a generation of Palestinians, O Jerusalem! tells the 3-dimensional story of this high-stakes, emotional conflict.

 

>>??<< Not really .. .. should it be ? but .. why does it matter .. as that not the kind of theft under discussion. You wouldn't be trying to conflate the two I hope .. as that would show some lack of understanding of the basics...

Land was "Given" to Jews to occupy in the Region .. that area had certain boundaries .. of which are well known .. a place to call home .. so to speak .. athough the idea of creating an official Jewish homeland not yet agreed upon by the US .. after the war in 1945. A few years later when Israel was declared a new state .. similar to how the Islamic State declared a new state during the war in Syria .. one lasted the other didnt - US attitude had changed and they recognized the land theft as legitimate immediately..

Regardless .. was accepted by those who had recently won the world war .. and that be that. Taking land outside those boundaries.. is what I am saying is Theft ..

 

U.S. Recognition of the State of Israel | National Archives
https://www.archives.gov › education › lessons › us-israel

Aug 2, 2021 — At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel. On that same date, President Truman recognized the provisional Jewish government as the de facto authority of the Jewish State....On May 15, 1948, the first day of Israeli Independence and exactly one year after UNSCOP was established, Arab armies invaded Israel and the first Arab-Israeli war began.

 

You tried to make a point as if it's the Palestinians who are refusing all kinds of deals. But when I noted all them Israeli deals are the dumbest ever, you got nothing to dispute and we can only see this that you are conceding. This is added by quickly changing the subject about something else to nag about.

Nothing shows that the Palestinian question is going to go away, as long as "Da Joow state" refuses to recognize Palestine and comply with international law as in do not colonize land that you occupy.

 

The Palestinians' opportunity to refuse deals passed long ago. No one needs to offer them anything any more.

 

it's a relevant question. Also what is a relevant question is "who are the Jews exactly?".

There are many groups who claim and counter claim but at present it is the "white Jewish folk" who have been given that position by England (a white nation incidentally).

Coincidence? Tribalism? White supremacy? Criminal racket? Whitewashing of history?

Take your pick.

 

I already responded to this. No offer was actually anything honest deal. The last deal, the Trump deal, was all about cutting up Palestine in individual small unarmed indefensible individually plots of land who are all surrounded by Israel annex land in the WB. The borders of each plot would remain in full control of Israel, as well as it's airspace.

That's not a country.

 

No, the statement 'You love life, we love death' is a common Islamist refrain,
Children don't make good warriors, but they make good propaganda. Harm this child and it's on international news.
Israel needs to do the same - make a big thing out of the death of an Israeli child killed by rockets for example - wonder if the media would even be interested.
The death count isn't the real issue due to Israel's military superiority - the real issue is who starts the fights and who is deliberately targetted.

 

Irrelevant as stated .. not relevant to Israel Stealing land in the generations that followed .. regardless of "who are the Jews exactly"

 

We agree. The Palestinians walked away from the offer of a country long ago. That was just one in a series of blunders. Now no one needs to offer them anything; they'll have to make do with whatever charity the victors may make available.

 

Another good reason to dislike Islamists - for something they have in common with fundamentalist Christians .. also in keeping with your position somewhere in between both .. but same camp in general.

You have been apologizing left right and center for the intentional slaughter of Palestinian Children .... and so what was the point here .. to show that the Islamists have similar sentiment towards children as your ideology ?

 

Sure, and I suppose I would have, quote, unquote, 'supported' the killing of German and Japanese children in WW2. But the argument is nuanced.
Fact 1 - only the Islamists WANT to fight
Fact 2 - Islamists know the infidels are leery of killing civilians
Fact 3 - if you don't fight the Islamists they will kill your own civilians.

 

Didn't say anything about WW2 ... a completely different situation you moving the goal post .. way far away - in desperate effort to apologoze for the intentional killing of innocent children .. a lame excuse you tried to use previously -- and got roasted on then .. just like now.

What are these "facts" all about , trying to show misery loves company ? - that because the Islamist has the same beliefs and position as yours . .. same lack of respect for civilian atrocity.. same apology for death of children of death .. that this position is A- OK ?

"Only Islamists want to fight" -- Demonstrably false nonsense .. you are the one been wanting to fight .. fight fight .. been justifying atrocity . both by the Islamist .. and against the Islamist .. just completely twisted and upside down .. change sides of the fence - one issue to the next .. with nonsense in the middle.

 

So, let's say there's this guy called General Giftedone and he is tasked with security of his nation's civilian population.
The neigboring nation wants to kill your people or drive you out because they believe your country is theirs.
This nation fights dirty, and wants to gaslight or project that dirty fighting onto you in the world's media - so YOU are a child killer, and not themselves who indiscriminately kill civilians and place their own civilians in harms way.
And there's no negotiation - you leave or die.
How would YOU fight this enemy?

 

"So Lets say the moon was made of Green Cheese" ?

No need to make up hypotheticals .. to try to further apologize for the wanton and - intentional slaughter of innocent children and civilians while conducting a war of aggression .. stealing land cleansing as they go...

The neighboring nation not stealing land in Israel .. Got things all backwards .. Israel doing the Stealing .. the attacking .. of the Palestinians and other nations that surround her .. Need to read some news once in awhile mate .. find out what going on

 

Just cause having trouble finding folks who agree with you .. don't mean you make nonsense statements and cry "We Agree"

What Victors .. The war is not over .. Time to start arming up the Palestinians like we did the freedom fighters in Ukraine .. against the foreign aggressors ..

Why you being so stingy .. don't you agree with the support for Ukraine ?

 

The Ukrainians are defending against foreign invasion. The Palestinians have been the aggressors since 1948, and have come to their current hopeless position via their own political blunders and military incompetence. The war is indeed over.

 

No, Israel hasn't stolen land. Jews come from the Levant - Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Galilee, Bethany, Samaria .... these are places you find in the Jewish bible.
Israel was given HALF their land back by the international community after a long history of persecution, mass murder and endless displacement - but the Arabs would not accept that sharing, despite Israel being only one tenth of one percent of the Muslim Middle East.

Now, General Giftedone, your task is to protect your own people against infiltration, bombings, rockets and mass military attacks. What do you do next?

 

If you oppose theft of land you oppose theft of land.

 

Palestinians are defending against foreign invasion .. same as Ukrainians .. your claim that Palestinians have been aggressors since 1948 is completely false nonsense .. some kind of historical dyslexia you have.

 

You have no idea of what you speak .. your claim that Israel hasn't stolen land 100% false and Israel continues to steal land in the "Occupied Territories" .. called the "Occupied Territories" for a reason = Not Israel's Land .. as per the agreement by which the State of Israel came into existence.

No wonder you sound so hopelessly lost on this topic .. Not knowing that this conflict is about land ..

 

Did you think you were experiencing some kind of Eureka moment ? .. Well your not .. The Eureka moment comes on realization that while both are theft of land .. one has nothing to do with the other .. is a different kind of theft of land .. and one has nothing to do with the other .. despite both being theft of land.

 

It is apparent you have done little reading.