Clever way to get rid of an opponent you cannot deal with ... the accusation of "trolling". I'm out of your "schema" ... sorry, well ... no sorry at all, Grow a bit and learn to discuss with free and open minds ...
Look up Rapture Ready on the net... it will tell you about them.. They are just about as dumb and crazy as that Muslim minority waiting on the Mahdi.
no, Europeans do not support Israel like they used, to, regardless of the war crimes committed by Israeli Jews over the last 70 years.
U don't live in Europe and thus u don't know like I do. Europeans support Israelis and that is purely tribalistic in its essence and I would happily discuss alternative conspiracies if there were any. None forthcoming though
You shouldnt expect of Israelis to do what you think is right because we disagree on what's right, I dont see how keeping Jerusalem whole steals food and water from "starving" Palestinians or how its the same as annexing the entire WB, but if its all the same to the Palestinians I guess building a state and have normal lives is a second priority.
So , You're prepared to fight as a "Partisan " Kill for Israel but refuse to acknowledge the right of a Palestinian being a Partisan/Freedom Fighter for PALESTINE . against a Military Occupation force . ?????? Hmmmmm. Remove your blinkers That which you refer to as "curious absurdities are well documented facts , some reported even in Israeli media . ..... .
Another CLANG from the master of name dropping... You must have been there attending the baptism of Jews or the Jewish conversion to Islam... Only air heads convert to Islam and genuflect to a rapist, a pedophile, a murderer and a thief. To me... the Arabs are not indigenous to my country they are squatters... even if the whole world will be against Israel.... ISRAEL's 'just cause' will prevail while the walking talking cadaver Abu Mazen will be entered somewhere giving the opportunity to millions like me to go spit on his grave.
I don't see arguments to discuss here. You even add "freedom fighters" talking about a military occupation which isn't. There are ongoing preventive containing measures [the Gaza blockade], but pay attention that they would be impossible without the active participation of Egypt. Is Egypt terrorist as well?
What is wrong with that... Israel building its own backyard... in another Fifty years there won't be any of the problems we are facing with the Arabs today... the majority will swear allegiance to Israel and get an Israeli ID and be like many others Arab citizens... The alternative to some Arabs short of other opportunities but 'terrorism' will have to find a way out to the Arab World... This will be proof positive that <the two States side by side world desire> is a sham.
Go read my post #41 - IDF is in fact the Worlds Largest Terrorist Organization which was in response to your insistence branding Palestinians as "terrorists " Post #41 is What Capt Joe Cortina (+ many others ) about Israels crimes against Palestinians forced to exist under IDF occupation. ===== " The Palestinians legal right to resist occupationto fight for their ability to promote, sustain, and nurture human life, to fight for their right to grow, to flourishcomes from two documents: the 1960 Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and the Fourth Geneva Convention and its subsequent protocols. Taken together, people have the right to fight against colonial domination and alien occupation in the exercise of their right to self-determination, Brayer explained. " " Above and beyond the basic right of all human beings to resist their being killed and harmed, and a society to take armed actions to protect itself, this document legitimizes also national liberation struggles, including, at this time in history, most particularly, the Palestinian peoples struggle for its own freedom. It is this right which legitimizes all Palestinian attempts to lift the yoke of Israeli oppression from Palestine, including all the actions taken by the Palestinians during Operation Cast Lead. " And is not the right to resist oppression universal? Does this right not justify the American Revolution and then the French Revolution and the wars of liberation in the 1950′s and 1960′s. Nelson Mandela is a hero because of his resistance to, not because of his subservience to apartheid repression. And the Warsaw Ghetto uprising by the Jewish population against the Nazi repression is a beacon of pride in modern Jewish history. it is also a fact that Jews who joined the resistance, say in Poland or other places under Nazi occupation, are heroes for the Jewish people. I would contend that one cannot deny that right of resistance to Palestinians which the Jews appropriated to themselves, and which is the right of all peoples living under military occupation and/or colonialist regimes. Richard Falk, the UN Special Rapporteur on Palestinian human rights, a professor of international law at Princeton University ....
You would not know 'international law' even if it fell like a ton of bricks on your big toe. Read my signature please.
Hmmm. - which came first AFAI can tell - Hamas is a product - a reaction to the Zionist states racist crimes There'd have been no Hamas if there was Respect / Justice for Palestinians in the first place. ...
OK Margot I was tired the other night when you were feeling so superior and arrogant and thought you knew everything about the world and were so superior to everyone else who was inferior to you. I take back that you know more about this part of the world than myself. You clearly don't. You have a fixed view in your mind which you have collected from tea parties and you have no ability to keep up with what is happening - just a desire to degrade any who do not agree with you. Egypt and Saudi Arabia without question and possibly Jordan are on the side of Israel against Hamas. They want Hamas destroyed, all the people killed just like Israels wants and do not care how many Palestinian people they kill while basically acting on a genocide against Hamas and anyone who could be considered Hamas or have any sympathy for them - most Palestinains. This CNN article has it more or less accurate - not saying I agree with every word but the basics. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/31/world/meast/israel-gaza-region/ Saudi Arabia wants rid of the Muslim Brotherhood because she rules by Islamic rule through an autocratic means. The Muslim Brotherhood showed that she could be elected and serve by Democratic means. Hence Saudi Arabia's interest was to destroy the Muslim Brotherhood - going along with what I told you Alistair Crooke said as to the reason SA does not like ISIS - because it does not recognise SA as the ruling power...also the reason you had not worked out as to why SA does not like the Muslim Brotherhood. They believe in empowering an Islamic form of governance through democratic means. Not acceptable to SA - they are the lords and Kings of Islamic rule in the ME and world anyone trying to interfere with this must be destroyed. Egypt as well wants to destroy the Muslim Brotherhood - no doubt because the people elected them and they do not want democracy either. They want the army to rule and I am not going further into that at the moment. So in the last war Israel, Egypt and Saudi Arabia wanted to destroy Hamas, from SA point of view because they represent the Muslim Brotherhood and are competition which could bring calls for democracy to her door rather than allowing her to rule over all. Egypt and Israel are in cahoots to destroy Hamas and destroy the Palestinians of Gaza. So end of. Saudi Arabia, like Egypt and Israel is against the Palestinian people. They are in cahoots with Israel to destroy them.
How can anyone "destroy" the Palestinians of Gaza or WB for that matter ? The objective was to get Abu Mazen in and diminish Hamas power in Gaza, that's why Abu Mazen forces are at Rafah border now and he's the one controls the aid money.
Simply by not removing the siege. The UN believes that Gaza will be uninhabitable by 2020 if that is not lifted and they cannot get on with proper lives and the ability to look after their territory. The Gaza prison is now worse than the Warsaw Ghetto. I have in this post said the intentions of the Israeli Government towards Gaza in your last killing rampage. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=378946&p=1064374372#post1064374372 You yourself were very clear about your desire for Hamas to be destroyed - that means killing them all, due to you wrongly thinking they had kidnapped and murdered three Israeli teens. Despite them not having done that and you having no knowledge that they did, you mindlessly followed your government and slurped at the idea of bloodshed, hopefully for you caused by the Salafis fighting back against the attack by Israeli soldiers on the civilians of the West Bank. You could not wait for the killing to begin. However as I said all that is needed is to leave Gaza under siege. That is the quiet way to destroy her and her people. Quite a spin. The objective was to destroy the Unity Government. If he now has control of their money then he will have given it to Hamas to pay her workers. Before you were keeping the money so they would starve. Bye the way pray tell me, when did Abbas get forces. You seriously expect anyone to believe the West Bank would go against Gaza. Please provide reputable sources for this. It is not being reported.
