It's Clear That Collusion Occured And That Our Leaders Are Cowards

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  1. KAMALAYKA

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    Email correspondence between Ron Goldstone and Don Trump, Jr:

    On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

    Good morning

    Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

    The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

    What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

    I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

    Best

    Rob Goldstone


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    On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

    Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

    Best,

    Don



    And now watch what Trump says a few days later during a rally (at 6:29 in the video).

     
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    Q. How is this any different to accepting the "incriminating" evidence of foreign intelligence operative Christopher Steele?

    A. The Dems paid for it.
     
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    These emails were posted online by Don Jr. on his own Twitter account. Don't you remember? He was afraid that they would be leaked, so he took initiative and leaked them himself and tried to make their content seem unimportant.

    They show intent to conspire. They also show a direct communication line between Trump Sr. and at least one Russian agent. And then the speech in the posted video, which occured several days later, further suggests collusion.

    Imagine what the redacted parts of the Mueller Report show.
     
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    Let's see. After two years of thorough investigation Bob Mueller and about 17 of the best Trump-hating lawyers and prosecutors in the world say no. But you know better. Don't tarry posting here. Get a hold of Mueller, quick!
     
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    Are the cracked dike walls tightening in on the beginning of Trump's noose end closing?
     
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    Mueller said yes, actually. Aren't you aware of his letter criticizing Barr?

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics/mueller-letter-to-barr/index.html

    That is the letter in its entirety as a pdf file.
     
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    And is not illegal collusion. It could only even be remotely construed as illegal if the got something and didn't turn it immediately over to the FBI. But since the FBI operating through Fusion GPS actually set the whole thing up in the first place what you have is an example of a half baked attempt at illegal entrapment that fell through because the suckers did't take the bait.
     
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    Not quite. But let me ask you this: When a cop sets up a sting to catch a pedophile, and then the cops charge the pedophile with intent to harm a minor, is that good or bad for society?
     
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    It depends on how the sting is done. There are quite stringent guidelines for that sort of thing And the Russian lady, who has now disappeared, working for the FBI through intermediaries meets none of them.
     
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    I'll politely suggest you bone up on your reading comprehension. Neither Mueller's report nor his letter to Barr said he found collusion or coordination.
     
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    I suspected as such when Loretta Lynch allowed the Russian lawyer to overstay her visa. Not only was it a half-baked attempt, it was a clear attempt. The FBI clearly orchestrated and created the so-called collusion case in order to influence the election and to destroy then-candidate Donald Trump and then President Donald Trump. I assess this with 100% certainty.
     
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    I would imagine sensitive confidential information relating to other matters, but hey, don't blame me, I've long championed the full unredacted version being made available to top Dems and Reps in a closed door session. If there is something nefarious they can report it and push for it to be made public.
     
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    Oh yeah, it's so clear that collusion occurred. Just ask all the fact/evidence deniers and Trump haters. They have such sharp vision and superior intelligence. They also seem to have an irresistible urge to continue embarrassing themselves day after day.
     
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    Like a river politics will find the fastest route downhill.
     
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    So let me get this right. If democrats pay for information obtained by russia (steele dossier) it’s ok but Trump campaign can’t do it? Explain.

    And collusion to commit crimes is the key here, there was none, mueller found none. Obtaining info is not a crime unless there is collusion to commit a crime to obtain the info.

    And just to sort of drive across how silly this is. If any foreign power has incriminating evidence of any presidential candidate, WE should all want to know! Why would any american not want to know if a candidate for president commited crimes, even if info comes from a foreign power? This is just beyond stupid.
     
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    Hysterical, delusional liberals are truly comical in their lame attempts at making something out of nothing. In the mean time they prove they are incapable of governing, because when given the opportunity, they waste time slinging mud instead of working on the problems of the people. As a group, they are truly and empty shirt.
     
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    The longer Democrats chase trump / Russia and relive 2016 the better. Every arrow the Democrats sling at trump is an arrow they would sling at America and Americans if he wasn't there.

    Trump is an American hero :clapping:
     
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    So what is your interpretation of the third paragraph of that letter?

    Larger question: Why even write such a letter?

    Think about it.
     
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    Trump does nothing but sling mud and play golf. Oh, and his [leaked] schedule shows that he devotes hours each day to "executive time," which amounts to him watching cable news.
     
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    You're contradicting yourself here. Either (a) the person is question worked for the FBI, or (b) there really was information about Clinton. And even if such compromising information existed, you seem more interested in using it for political gain than for pursuing justice.
     
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    Trumpers hate American values and want a monarchy or dictatorship. They don't care.
     
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    It's so silly to see Trump hug an American flag. What a superficial thing from a superficial man.
     
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    It makes me want to puke.

    Seriously, for over a year, just the sight of a flag made me feel sick - the symbol of a dead country.
     
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    Its there, you just need to read between the lines and it helps if you squint real hard while repeating "I CAN SEE IT" over and over until it becomes a mind based reality!
     
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    Obtaining opposition research without paying for it or even offering anything in return is not collusion.
     
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