It's obvious Abortion is wrong

Abortion is not wrong. Forcing little girls to marry because they got pregnant is wrong.

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/08/chi...irginia_and_other_states_may_be_on_their_way/

 

Ironic coming from yet another exceedingly desperate anti-rights OP!

 

Ignorance can be cured by education but stupidity is a life sentence.

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Locked in syndrome must be one of the worst possible things to ever have to endure.

 

Well, that's a meta-ethical view you need to justify.

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You need morality as a basis for why you treat the "Chevy" and Toyota" differently. Do we say murder is OK for men but bad for women just because men and women are different kinds of creatures?

 

""""You need morality as a basis for why you treat the "Chevy" and Toyota" differently""""


No, I only need facts.

 

Wow, you is so smart.

 

Wow, you obviously can't address my post.

 

do you support this.... I do not, I think the choice should be left to the next of kin, the parent in this case

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

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Should infants and children, or anyone for that matter, have suffering prolonged because their parents cannot face reality? The choice should be left to the parent only up to a point, at that point, medical personnel are justified in withholding treatment.

 

I support death with dignity, do you

I do not support the government making that choice for a person or their next of kin

 

It is not a matter of morality at all.

It is a matter of the Law of the Land and the evolution of an egg and sperm via many different stages prior to becoming a newborn.

But if you are concerned about morality then how is it possible to "worship" a deity that aborts up to 40% of all pregnancies? Where is the "morality" in worshiping a deity that arbitrarily aborts a fetus on a whim?

 

Or a deity that created cancer, malaria, disformities, evil, dementia...why, that deity even created death itself.

 

You don't need to circlejerk about your rejection of religion, this has nothing to do with that. Ethics is a broader field than just religious morality.

Slavery used to be the law of the land too. Laws are just rules made by men, they can change, and we can debate which laws we should or should not have. If you're going to allow abortion based on some notion of a fetus being distinct from a newborn, you need a justify why that difference is relevant.

 

The only real argument is the only one that matters. Is it YOUR baby/fetus? YOUR body? No? Then it's none of your concern. Let people make their own decisions based on their own moral compass. If some woman across the country has an abortion, why should it bother you? It didn't have anything to do with your own life until you let it bother you.

 

There IS something wrong with murdering a human being though

 

YUP! But try convincing Anti-Choicers of that....

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Yes, murdering a human being is wrong and that's why it's against the law.

 

The difference is that a fetus is using another's body to sustain it's life, a newborn isn't....

 

So what?

 

YOU: """ If you're going to allow abortion based on some notion of a fetus being distinct from a newborn, you need a justify why that difference is relevant.


Answer:

That's what.

 

That's what the difference is, sure. But why is it relevant to whether or not we should allow abortions?

I don't see how this is unclear to you.

 

Murdering a human being is not the topic of this forum - abortion is (the topic).

 

Are YOU allowed to use another person's body to sustain your life. For example can you force another person to give you a kidney or a heart to keep you alive? No, you can't.



A fetus certainly doesn't have the right to do that either.

The woman it's in can simply decide to withdraw consent to being harmed(sustaining that life) and have an abortion. Pregnant women do not have an obligation to sustain another life, they don't lose that right because they get pregnant.

 

Because pregnancy is not a benign condition. It has a HUGE impact on a woman's body, and no woman should be forced to endure it. Ever.

 

*sigh*

For the umpteenth time, a woman's individual rights are protected by the Constitution so she has a right to do whatever she wants with her own body, including have an abortion, and no one else has any say in whether or not that is "allowed".

Capiche?

 

But if she chooses to stop the pregnancy prematurely, that comes at the cost of the life of the fetus. How do you weigh the one over the other?

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Bravo! You finally made an argument. This was the same one in my thread here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/464464-abortion-justified-because-unwanted-fetus-parasite.html