It's over for white people?

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  1. ThirdTerm

    ThirdTerm Well-Known Member

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    Robert Whitaker once wrote: 'ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!'. Imperial Japan was serious about creating the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere under the slogan 'Asia for the Asiatics' and any European colonists living in Asia were forced to leave their settlements and the Japanese army was welcomed as liberators in Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia. Imperial Japan occupied the Dutch East Indies to create the conditions for Indonesian independence and the Indonesian ruling classes and politicians actively cooperated with the Japanese to end Dutch colonial rule.

     
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    You can see the White race on this chart. The evil Communists, who pretend to be about "equality" but are about seizing power and enslaving humanity, attempting to destroy the noble humanitarian White race who provide the best defence against them, of course tell Whites they "don't exist" as a program of demographic genocide is orchestrated against them.

    Further, although I do think Whites are superior, even if they just had some unique qualities removing them would make society decline, just like removing a team member who has a skill would. But yeah, Whites are obviously superior because they invented almost everything. And don't list Jewish plagiarisms please.
     
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    I have no idea where you got Either of these claims. Not everybody thinks there is a race problem, and not everyone says that's how to solve the race problem. And why are you quoting a movie to prove your point? None of this makes any sense.
     
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    Superior in some things maybe, we arent superior in long distance running for example - blacks are. All races have the strengths and weakness, some more than others. But even that says nothing about the individual who must always be respected.

    That said im a firm believer in protecting all races in their homelands, leaving the a strong majority where possible. This idea of all people on the planet merging into the same with no cultural differences as diversity is idiotic. Having a large majority of Japanese in Japan practicing their own culture - Africans in Africa, Chinese in China and so on is diversity. Theres no reason not to respect, admire and learn from those differences and theres no reason each country cant be friendly towards each other. Who wants to visit Japan and admire the architecture and culture but wants its people wiped from the face of the earth? No it needs its people as well!

    Having a majority still allows for some mixed immigration, still allows for overseas holidays and everything else.. Im for protecting the great diversity that took 10s of thousands of years to create.

    But as has been touched on, when people talk about diversity they dont mean these countries - they're just fine as they are. Only if theres too many whites then theres a problem they say.
     
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    Did whites invent almost everything? I have not seen any evidence to support your theory. Did you have any evidence? Or is this just an opinion statement?

    Also the chart you listed is incomplete (no key or scale to explain whats going on) , it doesn't even have a title.
     
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    Tell that to the Polynesians. Western civilization can't exist without white people.
     
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    Western civilization can exist just fine without people being that color.




     
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    Where?
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right where it is today.




     
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    Nowhere except where Whites are? Also can you stop adding so much whitespace to your vacuous posts.
     
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    And you're worried that if their skin stopped being white, something of value would be lost? That's like objecting to changing the color of a football teams jersey because they wore that color when they won the Superbowl. Color didn't make it happen.

    It's even worse when some moron claims he must be a better athlete than the next guy — because he's wearing that color shirt.





     
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    Original post #205 by Smarty

    "I have no idea where you got Either of these claims. Not everybody thinks there is a race problem, and not everyone says that's how to solve the race problem. And why are you quoting a movie to prove your point? None of this makes any sense. "

    It's my impression that main stream media and the education system are hostile to whites.
    You may not see that. I do because I'm a pro-white dissident, an by definition a free thinker.
    I'll give you a link to the whole mantra, written by Whitaker.

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/bobsmantra.htm



    BOB'S MANTRA
    "Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries."

    "The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them."


    "Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites."


    "What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?"


    "How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?"


    "And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?"


    "But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews."


    "They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white."


    "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white."




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    :confusion:
    What did they teach you about white's in school?
    Did they tell you who invented the steam engine, calculus, the pythagoram theorem, the microscope, eye glasses, the telescope, the cotton gin, the mechanical reaper, the locomotive, the steam boat, anesthesia, vaccination, the telegraph, the sewing machine, the telephone, radio, the vacumm tube, the airplane, the internal combustion engine, penicilin, the transistor, lasers, the integrated circuit, the green agricultural green revolution, discovered the DNA spiral helix, Velcro, ?

    I remember our fourth grade teacher in 1952 taught us that white's were called Caucasians.
    When a few days later he quizzed us by asking what our racial classification was I couldn't remember the exact word. But I knew from school and the media even then, that white's were supposed to be seen as bad.
    So I did the best I could to combine my memory and knowledge and piped up "cockroaches".
    That shows you how long the demonization of whites has been going on.
     
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    You forgot to mention all of the other "races" inventions.

    I don't take offense to the term "caucasian", I don't understand how that could be a demeaning or bad term, that would classify whites as evil.
     
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    What are their origins? How could a white race of people be living in China?
     
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    The mummies preserved in the Xiaohe Tomb complex located in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region have Caucasoid physical features and it's estimated that the ancient Uyghur population lived in the Tarim basin since the early Bronze Age. Their maternal lineages belong to the East Asian haplogroup C, while their paternal lines were the West Eurasian haplogroup R1a1a, which is also common in the Russian population. South Siberia is a likely place where the admixture of Eastern and Western populations occurred more than 10,000 years ago before the ancestors of the Uyghur population settled in the Tarim basin around 5,000 years ago.

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    The remarkably preserved Beauty of Xiaohe mummy found in the tomb complex.

     
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    :confusion:
    I didn't object to the term caucasian. The incident in 1952 showed that even then, becasue I conflated white's with cockroaches, that we whites were being demonized. (Unless you like cockroaches??)
    Why don't you mention some inventions?
     
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    Immigrants from Muslim countries to the two European countries began to arrive in the 1960s when agreements were signed with Muslim countries such as Turkey, Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia to import cheap labour and the influx of immigrants has increased since then. There was an economic rationale to import foreign workers back them as there were thriving manufacturing industries in Europe, while there was no race problem to be solved in Europe, unlike the US which historically implemented Jim Crow laws to oppress minorities. During the war, Imperial Japan also imported millions of foreign workers from Korea and China and there are large Korean and Chinese communities in Japan as a result, which is considered as a race problem by right-wingers, and there is a myth that Japan has no race problem because there are no foreign-born people in the country.
     
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    I asked you to name where Western civilization was upheld by non-Europeans and you failed, indicating that there are more differences than "color", as I'm sure you're aware.

    Seriously, this "color" strawman (aka. deliberate slanderous lie) is getting to be embarassing. It's like the left hasn't thought of any new lies in about 40 years.
     
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    It's funny that this "race problem", for which the solution is demographic genocide of Whites, supposedly only exists in White nations, except where it doesn't, where there are other "problems", and where the "solution" is again demographic genocide of Whites.

    Could there be a common factor, like, I don't know, anti-White anti-Christian Marxist Jews?
     
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    This is garbage and Uyghurs are about 50/50 and scatter between the Chinese and the Armenoid central Asian Caucasoid (ie. not White) cluster.

    Haplogroups are much less informative than the autosome, such as used in this large study from HUGO.

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    You may have missed this additional information I added to my original post and the proportion of European ancestry in the Uyghur population ranges from 40.3% to 84.3%. Genetically they are slightly more closer to Western Europeans than to the Chinese as the PCA chart below shows, pointing to an ancient admixture scenario between European (R1a1, J, K, N) and East Asian (C, O) lineages.

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    Figure 2 Principal-Coordinate-Analysis Representation of the Allele-Sharing Distance

    Principal-coordinate analysis (PCO) provides a useful means of revealing relationships among individuals. Figure 2 is a two-dimensional plot displaying the first two PCO axes for all individuals, with allele-sharing distance (ASD) used for all pairwise combinations of individuals. Individuals from one population cluster tightly, to the exclusion of individuals from other populations. The first two axes together explain 25.8 % of the total variation, and each of the remaining axes explains less than 1.5 % of the total variation. The first PCO axis shows a separation of the African and non-African populations and explains 17.57 % of the total variation; the second PCO axis explains 8.27 % of the total variation and shows a separation of the European and East Asian populations, with UIG individuals lying between them. This is also an expected result of UIG as an admixed population.

    At the individual level, the proportion of East Asian ancestry in UIG individuals ranges from 15.7% to 59.7%, and the proportion of European ancestry in UIG individuals ranges from 40.3% to 84.3%. The distribution of admixture proportions among UIG individuals is relatively even, and the variation is much smaller than the estimation of variation in the AfA population.58 It is unlikely that such results were due to sampling of closely related individuals, because the IBD values within UIG samples were the lowest in all populations (CHB, JPT, CEU, YRI) (Table 3). Furthermore, the ancestry variation among individuals could even be overestimated, given that the result was based on the data of one single chromosome. This result suggests a much longer history of admixture events for the Uyghur population compared with the AfA population, because recombination over many generations has interwoven chromosome segments derived from both ancestries and drift of ancestries among individuals has become very small.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2427216/
     
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    Sadly your PCA doesn't include Armenoid Central Asians which is why Uyghurs scatter towards Whites.
    Ie. the common variation (principal components) which indicate shared ancestry between Central Asians and Uyghurs are simply not on your chart. It's easy to "prove" something by simply leaving out the necessary data.

    Why would you post this half ass inconclusive chart after I posted a conclusive one above, then lecture me about how PCA works? Could you do something other than copy paste stuff you don't seem to understand?
     
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    Here's another one for you.

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    Oh look they're scattering towards somewhere between the Caucasus and Pakistan.

    And major fail re. the cherry picked photos.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Another PCA also shows that Gujarati people are much closer to European populations and it varies slightly if other populations are included in a particular study. Gujarati people belong to a West Eurasian-specific mtDNA haplogroup U7 and mtDNA Haplogroup U also includes U4 and U5 found at high frequencies in European hunter-gatherers and modern Scandinavians. U4 is also found in the Mansi (16.3%) and in the Kalash people (34%) and 11% of Europeans and 10% of European-Americans belong to Haplogroup U5. Moreover, the Armenoid race is not a valid racial designation and it referred to Syrians and and Lebanese in the early 20th century.

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    Kalash People in Chitral, Pakistan

     

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