It's over in Afghanistan!

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    You're assuming we had good enough intel to know how many nukes they had back during 1961. The Soviets were understandably very guarded about how many nukes they had, just like we were.

    Khrushchev wanted to convey that the USSR had more power than they really did, and judging by our response, he was quite successful at it.
     
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    We could've "won" over there in a day, but we had to play nice. We can win every war very quickly if we just kept the eye on the prize and destroyed anyone crazy enough to screw with us. But again, we have to play nice while the crazies throw the rulebook out the window.
     
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    I think the Russians had worked that out quite easily and quickly .
    Which is why they led the Americans by miles for at least 20 years in the areas of Chemical and Biological war fare .
    It is debatable which side would have come off worst but any one day victory for the US would have been Noddy Land thinking .
    This is one of the problems of taking out Syria now which is prime US policy .Syria has at least fifty Chemical plants spread across the country and with Russia as good friends , you would not dare push Basher to his limit given the great risks involved .
     
  4. Albert Di Salvo

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    I'm loving the fact that Obama's Afghanistan policy is collapsing around him. This failure is going to hurt America real, real bad. Is that what you fokking leftists want? To hurt America real, real bad? Well, you've succeeded beyond your wildest dreams.
     
  5. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Well, you did just say you're "loving" his policy....
     
  6. Albert Di Salvo

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    Yup, but that's because I have moved on beyond emotional attachment to a sinking ship. It's too late to save America. But it's not too late to fight the left. It prevents them from imposing their will on me. Anything now goes in the struggle for power.

    Most leftists still pretend to love America. It's difficult for them to reconcile that love with the injuries being inflicted on America by Obama.

    I like the idea of putting leftists into positions where they get whip sawed.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most leaders respect him alot more than Bush.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was talking to a Syrian who just came back from Syria and while he did not like Assad .. his opinion was very similar to yours.

    The rebels in Syria are not like the "occupy wall street folks". They are armed insurgents, have funding, and a purpose.

    What would our Govt do if there were a bunch of Gun toting folks trying to take over the white house.

    It would be brutal .. and be over much quicker than the crisis in Syria.
     
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    Are you referring to the Neo Con policy which was fronted by Georgie -- not Bam a loo -- and consisted of convincing a simple audience to chase somebody who was not even there .
    Let alone a so called terrorist group that had been basically been kicked out by the Taliban some time before , because of management differences .
    Perhaps you had not come up from Mexico then and don't know what went on in your now adopted country ?
     
  10. skeptic-f

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    Is Israel capable of timing a strike on Iranian nuclear facilities so that the resulting political fallout and rising gas prices influence the outcome of the Presidential elections? If they decide to proceed with the military operation, the temptation to kill two birds with one stone could easily present itself to Netanyahu, who has no respect for any American politician but who is looking for a suitable poodle to deal with.
     
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    You have quite a vivid imagination.
     
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    Pretty much... I didn't really believe it at first, but yeah, it makes sense now.
     
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    No respects or fears Obama. Iran? Syria? Russia? China? North Korea? Egypt? Iraq? Europeans?
     
  14. Albert Di Salvo

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    Maybe you're right. Leftists don't love America.
     
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    Go away...I don't have time for you today.
     
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    More Americans died in Afghanistan today. Who is responsible for their deaths? Baraka Obama sent them to Afghanistan. Is it not he who sent them to their deaths?
     
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    Be proud of your back ground . Many people have clawed their way from poverty to achieve a car and reasonable rented property.
     
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    Date Name Place of Death Branch
    3-01-2012 Jones, Payton A. Kandahar Army
    3-01-2012 Lowry, Conner T. Southern Afghanistan Marine
    3-01-2012 Bear, Jordan L. Kandahar Army
    2-25-2012 Loftis, John D. Kabul City Air Force
    2-25-2012 Marchanti II, Robert J. Kabul City Army National Guard
    2-23-2012 Conrad Jr., Timothy J. Khogyani district Army
    2-23-2012 Born, Joshua A. Khogyani district Army
    2-21-2012 McKenna Jr., Allen R. Kandahar Army
    2-16-2012 Reed II, Jerry D. Paktika Army
    2-10-2012 Montes De Oca, Osbrany Helmand Marine
    2-07-2012 Sutton, Billy A. Uruzgan Army National Guard
    2-03-2012 Hildner, Terence J. Kabul Army
    2-01-2012 Dycus, Edward J. Helmand Marine
    1-31-2012 Stacey, William C. Helmand Marine
    1-25-2012 Johnson, David A. Kandahar Army
    1-21-2012 Singer, Christopher G. Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 Logan, Joseph D. Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 McHone, Nathan R. Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 Stites, Jesse W. Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 Bartle, Daniel B. Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 Reinhard, Kevin Helmand Marine
    1-20-2012 Riddick, Travis Helmand Marine
    1-18-2012 Benson, Keith D. Paktika Army
    1-18-2012 McGeath, Phillip D. Helmand Marine
    1-15-2012 Bateman, Jon-Luke Helmand Marine
    1-15-2012 Cochran, Kenneth E. Helmand Marine
    1-11-2012 Turner, Neil I. Logar Army
    1-10-2012 Pyron, Michael W. Parwan Army
    1-08-2012 Napier, Dustin P. Zabul Army
    1-06-2012 Patterson, Christopher A. Kandahar Army National Guard
    1-06-2012 Tauteris Jr., Robert J. Kandahar Army National Guard
    1-06-2012 Leonhardt, Brian J. Kandahar Army National Guard
    1-06-2012 Metzger, Jonathan M. Kandahar Army National Guard
    1-06-2012 Seidler, Matthew R. Shir ghazi Air Force
    1-05-2012 Schwartz, Matthew S. Shir ghazi Air Force
    1-05-2012 Bell, Bryan R. Shir ghazi Air Force
    1-02-2012 Regelin, Chad R. Helmand Navy
     
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    Lions led to slaughter by donkeys. The latter are invariably 'here today, gone tomorrow' politicians who if put on the spot would be hard pressed to name a single one of those names.
     
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    For me, the only issue that counts is getting as many of the troops home alive and whole as possible. There are no other policy considerations.
     
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    to be fair if our country was being occupied by a overwhelmingly Muslim army and they burnt our bible, i imagine some fanatics may kill over it

    especially if they have koran codes engraved on their guns, ect...
     
  22. Albert Di Salvo

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    Why won't Obama just admit he's been defeated and bring the troops home now? It would save lives.

    More people die every day Obama delays the return of the troops. Obama places his own interests above those of the troops.
     
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    China, NK, Europeans, Russia all respect Obama more than Bush.

    None of these countries, with the exception of NK, feared Bush.

    Looks like NK is starting to come around.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

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    If you have evidence supporting the first sentence of your post please present it.

    North Korea isn't coming around. Obama is swallowing the same bait previously swallowed by Clinton and Bush.
     
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    Did NK allow inspectors in during Clinton and Bush ?

    As far as respect is concerned .. ask anyone who is not American Republican. Even Trump said he was embarrassed to travel.

    I am fortunate enough to be able to travel quite often for work and pleasure.

    The world hated Bush for the most part because he was a reckless idiot and a fool. Rumsfeld, Cheney and the other neocons were hated as well because of their belligerent and pompous attitude.

    They do not mind Obama so much.
     
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