It's over in Afghanistan!

dixon76710 wrote: "Revealing, such a long response, none of it supporting the assertion that; "There is legitimate opposition in the streets to al-Assad's reign and the U.S. is supporting their slaughter."

Clearly, you either didn't read the material I've provided or you can't comprehend it. If the argument is a fallacy, you've by no means exposed it. FYI, a straw is when someone falsely reconstructs another's argument and then refutes that false reconstruction. What's revealing is that you don't expose any discrepancy, you're just saying no, no, no. You don't bother to rationalize what would seem to be a most unlikely arrangement in Syria, where the superpower and its arch enemy are on the same side of the conflict, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T! Do you even understand the contention that this material is challenging? The U.S. and corporate media are asserting that Syrian government forces are solely responsible for the slaughter of hundreds to thousands of peaceful protesters. The material I've sourced refutes that claim. Some of the articles explicitly tie some of the attacks or the justification of force by Syrian forces, to the rebels supported by the U.S. Others provide a considerable amount of logistical facts that support the same conclusion.

Again, one of the articles cites a study, the Arab League's monitoring of the situation. This report was at the behest of states like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Reportedly, both want al-Assad out! The report contradicts their rhetoric and undermines their objectives. Here's yet another source citing that study:

I'm sure that the actions of Syrian forces are not always justified, but it appears that on many occasions, they are. Again, it mentions this "armed entity" affiliated with the very faction supported by the U.S. Among their acts of terror include attacks upon civilians! It is true that much of that support is through proxies, but it is indeed the hidden hand of the hegemony! Now, you either don't understand the argument or you dismiss it. But to say it isn't substantiated is utter nonsense! Why don't you instead present and substantiate your understanding of what's really happening in Syria? Do tell what you think al-Qaeda's role is there? Do you think they're there to carry placards and march up & down the street? Syria is considered a terrorist hub, is it not? Why would extreme fundamentalists help facilitate the overthrow of the al-Assad regime?

 

So basically, it's a lot like what happened in Libya (and pretty much Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, etc.)

It's just two sides guilty of murder fighting each other over anything but freedom and justice.

 

That is now your SEVENTH source, that contains the FIRST sentence that even supports your assertions. One unsupported assertion, if we assume that "attacks" of citizens leads to the "slaughter" of those citizens and among those citizens are some that formed the opposition in the streets. There is an abundance of evidence showing that the "slaughter"ing of the "opposition in the streets" has been at the hands of the Syrian military.

 

Serfin' USA wrote: "So basically, it's a lot like what happened in Libya (and pretty much Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, etc.). It's just two sides guilty of murder fighting each other over anything but freedom and justice."

We would all prefer to believe otherwise but I'm afraid you're right. The one side professes humanitarian motives, while the other professes to be protecting the state's sovereignty, perhaps. As you imply, both contend to share the interests of the people when in fact, neither does.

 

Well, I guess if you think a tin horn dictator is justified in using military force against his own people to maintain his families rule, then some of the Syrian forces actions are justified.

 

excellent subject , way over 500 so start a new one!