Its Trust Women week!

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by OKgrannie, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can a man trust a woman (who he just had procreational sex with) not to kill his progeny? Answer: Make and GET a commitment BEFORE taking the 'plunge' and don't choose a so-called 'pro-choicer' which is really a code-word for pro-aborter. She could get a hang-nail after sex and blame you and then decide to abort claiming 'health' reasons.
     
  2. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    I just cannot beleive that most women are that cold hearted and self centered.
     
  3. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    That looks about right. I wouldn't hire any of them anyway.

    There is no question that pro life women are of better character.
     
  4. TheHat

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    /End of thread.
     
  5. MisLed

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    abortions are not conducive to women's mental health. it is just the opposite. Get a bad abortionist and you face sterility which in some of your cases might not be a bad thing. or death or disfigurement. It is definitely not mentally or emotionally healthful to anyone but a hardnosed, man hating feminist such as Steinem.
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    I think you were misled again.
     
  7. MisLed

    MisLed New Member

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    you should read the research.
     
  8. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    I did, did you?
     
  9. MisLed

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    matter of fact i did.

    but perhaps you're right. For something like abortion to bother you, you'd have to have a soul to begin with.
     
  10. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    I'll just stick to supported facts,
     
  11. MisLed

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    oh really. no soul necessary then.
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    To establish scientific facts no, one is not necessary.
     
  13. OKgrannie

    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hogwash! Pro-life women have abortions too, then they lie about it.

    Many a pro-life woman, even those who march in protests, choose to have abortions even while advocating denying them to other women.

    http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

    "I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers." (Physician, Australia)

    "I've had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, 'You're not going to tell them, are you!?' When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn't want this to interfere with it." (Physician, Texas)


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  14. injest

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    trust a woman to be selfish?!

    hey there's an empowering, non stereotypical way of promoting women.
     
  15. injest

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    then you dont' agree with a man having to pay child support then at all? if a woman has sole authority of whether to have a baby or not then the man shouldn't be held responsible.

    but that's what the goal is anyway, isn't it? to destroy the family and make men obsolete so you can replace them with the government handouts?
     
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    LOL! welcome to the insanity that is pro abortion people on this forum..

    they are pushing the narrative that having a baby permanently damages women's bodies..that ALL mothers are pathetic wrecks...

    oh they'll jump in and say that isn't true (they always do...because they don't read their own posts) but look around or wait, Cady in particular will post something about how ooooooo so dangerous being pregnant is...

    they claim to believe in evolution but then want to claim that 'mother nature' designed the female of our species to fall apart as soon as the first baby takes hold in the uterus...

    for some reason, dogs, cats, horses, cows....ALL those mammels have babies and are fine but HUMAN females are defects of nature. Really by their own 'theory' we should have been extinct millions of years ago..

    cats don't get stretch marks though...not noticeable ones at least (and that IS the main objection I have seen...stretch marks...:puke: )
     
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    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    It is a medical fact that in average, abortion is safer for the woman than childbirth:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16389015
     
  18. Cady

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    I see...So your point is that women should abort for 'safety' reasons instead of giving birth. More proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.
     
  20. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Women should have the option of abortion for safety reasons. Why should they not? And why the quotes around "safety"?
     
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    Exactly how is it a "desperate lie?" You've got one post to present a compelling case before you meet the ignore list. I'm tired of trying to hold a rational discussion with people who cannot be reasoned with and base all of their arguments on their feelings. Which is all I predict you will have.
     
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    Obviously you're not a male!! Due to a male's hunter past, it is in every male's DNA not to trust something that bleeds for a week and doesn't die...

    (Sorry, but you opened the door wide to that old joke... lol!)
     
  23. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abortions are performed at some point before birth, so "infanticide" doesn't apply. "Infant" and "baby" are terms for the developmental stage after birth. You are the one appealing to emotion by using terms that apply to a born baby.
     
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    Inconvenience is not 'safety.' If a woman will die giving birth an abortion seems like the logical path to me. However, since SCOTUS gave all sexual rights to women the choice would be up to that woman who, IMO, would have a clear conscious.

    Having an abortion for convenience-sake will most certainly come back to haunt any woman with the least bit of moral fiber. I'm just trying to give women good advice here.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trivializing pregnancy and childbirth as "inconvenience" is an insult to all mothers. EVERY pregnancy is life-threatening, hardly what an honest person would term an "inconvenience."


    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

    exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
    heartburn and indigestion
    constipation
    weight gain
    dizziness and light-headedness
    bloating, swelling, fluid retention
    hemmorhoids
    abdominal cramps
    yeast infections
    congested, bloody nose
    acne and mild skin disorders
    skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
    mild to severe backache and strain
    increased headaches
    difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    increased urination and incontinence
    bleeding gums
    pica
    breast pain and discharge
    swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
    difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
    inability to take regular medications
    shortness of breath
    higher blood pressure
    hair loss
    tendency to anemia
    curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
    infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
    (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and
    are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    extreme pain on delivery
    hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section — major surgery — is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)


    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:
    stretch marks (worse in younger women)
    loose skin
    permanent weight gain or redistribution
    abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
    changes to breasts
    varicose veins
    scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
    increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)

    Occasional complications and side effects:

    spousal/partner abuse
    hyperemesis gravidarum
    temporary and permanent injury to back
    severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies)
    dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses — 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
    pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
    gestational diabetes
    placenta previa
    anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    thrombocytopenic purpura
    severe cramping
    embolism (blood clots)
    medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
    diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
    mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
    hormonal imbalance
    ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    broken bones (ribcage, “tail bone”)
    hemorrhage and
    numerous other complications of delivery
    refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
    severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including “egg harvesting” from infertile women and donors
    research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
    research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

    Less common (but serious) complications:
    peripartum cardiomyopathy
    cardiopulmonary arrest
    magnesium toxicity
    severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    massive embolism
    increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
    malignant arrhythmia
    circulatory collapse
    placental abruption
    obstetric fistula


    More permanent side effects:
    future infertility
    permanent disability
    death.
     

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