Jesus, I’m calling you out.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Earn my loyalty, Jesus....don't just threaten me and my family with torture (far worse than even Hitler could dream about for his hated enemy the Jews) for not stroking your fragile ego by not treating you like the ultimate rock-star, and then not show up for 2000 years and counting.

    Prove you exist. Also prove you are better to worship than Allah, or Zeus, or Krishna, etc. If you are real, and care for us, then you'd do it in a heart-beat...even a 6-year-old child can see that. Are you smarter than a 6-year-old child, Jesus?

    You appear to be as real as Santa, and as uncaring as Hitler...either way, no one is worth worshipping w/out proof.

    I like some of your supposed teachings, but you appear to be like the mob....you don’t provably directly help me out, but you threaten my family’s life if I don’t do what you want.

    Have "faith", you say? I need "faith" to believe that Bigfoot is real, because there is no good evidence for Bigfoot's existence. Surely you can prove yourself (and therefore help people avoid brutal torture) better than a big, stinky, hairy ape-creature, can't you, Jesus?

    Prove you exist, or I’ll just put you in the same category as Mithra, Ahmanrah, and Wotan....or Paul Bunyan, and the Easter Bunny.

    Since you haven’t proven yourself in 2000 years and counting, I’m not going to hold my breath.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ie(sus) chrestos, Apollo the good, make yourself known! :D
     
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    Just because his dad's a dirtbag doesn't mean that Jesus is too. Jesus probably couldn't wait to turn 18 and get the hell outta that house. :blankstare:
     
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    It's time for Bigfoot, Nessie, Jesus, and Santa to stop hiding!
     
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    Dad accepted slavery, and not surprisingly, Jesus did too.

    Dad said to kill [insert names of every gay celebrity that you can think of] and Jesus never refuted that.

    Dad hated women, and Jesus, unlike modern Secular Humanism, didn't speak out strongly in favor of women's rights, he largely allowed the discrimination against women to continue....even though he claimed to be a moral teacher. Hardly.

    Jesus is worse than the old testament, because, unless I'm mistaken, there's no hell for those disgusting (apparently, even if very very moral) Jews/Muslims/Hindus/Secular-Humanists, etc. in the old testament. But ol' Jesus sure as heck approves of worse-than-Saddam-could-meet-out torture for those, uh, filthy scum who won't suck up to him (no matter how moral they may have been in their lives - nope, gotta play to Jesus' ego or you burn baby burn.) Jesus is one sick puppy.

    The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
     
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    Have you tried this?

    http://youtu.be/InkUj_ooMDY
     
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    Well, if He doesn't exist but you pretend He does and treat Him with respect, you've lost nothing.

    If He DOES and you disrespect Him as you are doing now, well let's just hope He is merciful and has a good sense of humor, eh?

    Either way, did your little tantrum make you feel better?
     
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    Why would He want to?

    For that matter, why would anyone want to?
     
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    According to the fairy tale Jesus didn't come to save everyone therefore he has no reason to prove that he is real to non-believers.

    Use of Parables Explained
    http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_parables_of_jesus/use_of_parables_explained/mk04_33-34.html

     
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    are you special ?
     
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    Squid, we are all special. :headbang:
     
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    my mom says I'm her special child.
     
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    Santa only comes out on Christmas night (and only while your asleep and only if your good), sometimes we see his helpers though

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    Are you mad at Jesus because of what kinda guy he was, or maybe there is a lot about him you just don't understand. After all, he is supposed to be God.
     
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    Supernatural = "I ain't got no good evidence"
     
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    He's not god, he's a con artist who has been duping innocent people for 2000 years. No loving "god" accepts slavery like Jesus did. No loving "god" says it's cool that Jews/Hindus etc. get tortured worse than Hitler could ever dream of meeting out to the Jews. No "god" accepts torture. No "god" can't even prove he exists (a chimpanzee can prove he exists, but Jesus clearly can't, because he is just a figment of people's imaginations.)
     
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    That's for sure. They're making a lot of people look really silly. This prank must end.
     
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    Well then Santa has Jesus beat, now doesn't he.

    Jesus is as real as an other imaginary friend.
     
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    Always the emotional misdirection..
     
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    Margot Account closed, not banned

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    Boy are you off the mark.. I doubt you have ever read the New Testament or understnd any of the Bible in terms of context or history.. It was rewritten by Ezra the scribe for King Josiah and its very political with very specific agenda.
     
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    1. No, if I treat an imaginary friend with respect then I look like a fool, and am prostituting the truth...the truth is what modern Secular Humanists seek. We value truth....Christians, well, not so much.

    2. He deserves no respect because he sits idly by when he (allegedly) knows full well that a tsunami is coming (say in Aceh a few years ago) and is too morally bankrupt to simply warn the innocent children about it. He is sick and twisted, or more likely, is just a made-up imaginary friend meant to try to get people to follow some moral code. Either way, I live for the day when he is discredited.
     
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    A loving "god" would feel he has an obligation to reasonably prove himself, so he wouldn't have to see that as many people get sent to supposed "eternal torture"....if he was a loving god....but he's CLEARLY NOT. Jesus is sick and twisted. Hitler would reveal himself...think about that. All Jesus has to do is take time out of his busy schedule of helping Tim Tebow beat the other team (because Tebow prays to Jesus), helping people do well in the all-important 3rd grade math test, etc. to just REVEAL HIMSELF....then these non-believers won't suffer for eternity. That's not too much to ask, now is it? Of course not.
     
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    Correct as usual. He said he only came to help the Israelites (that's why initially he refused, the jerk, to help that one lady who asked for his help). So Jesus, like that one guy who was only trying to help the Aryan people (Adolf, something, I can't remember, anyway...), is a racial supremacist. But if I had Jesus' supposed powers, since I'm more moral than Jesus, I'd certainly set out to help ALL peoples. Clearly I'm more moral than Jesus. So believe in yourself (I'm no better than other people), rather than in some slavery-accepting, torture-approving, supremacist imaginary friend who is fine with all, say, Buddhists suffering in hell - because he's such a prick that he steadfastly refuses to clearly reveal himself to Buddhists - reveal himself ENOUGH so that Buddhists see the "truth" that Jesus is divine. He won't, so he either is a fairy tale or a complete jerk...either way he hasn't earned our loyalty, no has he?
     
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    If he cared about humanity, which he clearly does NOT, then yes, he'd do one simple thing: reveal himself at, say, the Superbowl, so that everybody clearly sees that he exists. He won't, because, like Wotan and Thor and Allah, he's just a made up fairy tale meant to fill the coffer$ at thousands of con-artist buildings (called "churches", I believe). He's a prophet for profit. It's a very effective con, because they cleverly set it up as a non-falsifiable belief system.
     
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    Not to people like you, He wouldn't.

    That's the last thing in the world you want, and He doesn't impose Himself on anybody.
     

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