Jesus was white

What exactly is the point of this thread? Why are you fixated on trying to establish the "Whiteness" of Jesus?

 

well, some idiots think he was black as coal, so I say there is more evidence that he was white as snow.

 

Yeah...but why does any of that matter? Does it make Jesus any more or less acceptable? Was his message informed by the color of his skin?

 

like I said, some idiots think he was black.

its my job, as a Jew, to prove this is false.

 

Don't you think that this is an impossible task, since there is no actual photographic evidence to support any claim? Very little is even known about this figure. He never wrote anything, and all we have are second and third hand accounts. When we focus on the color of his skin aren't we completely ignoring the message he intended? I wasn't aware of a job being assigned to Jews to prove the color of Jesus skin. When was that assignment given?

My impression would be that he looked very much like others from that region. Are we going to start asking about the Whiteness of Moses next?

 

Most Levantines are NOT black.

Therefore its logical to assume that the chances of Jesus being black, are VERY slim.

Nevermind the fact that the Nazarines are described in the Bible as being very light skinned.

 

Do you think that any of this makes his message more meaningful?

 

Was his skin color really that significant?

 

apparently it is to some people.

what color do I really think he was?

I think he looked like your average Levantine.

 

The verse you chose to support that claim is clearly metaphorical. It's not a reference to skin color. Jabrosky cited more credible evidence that the ancient Israelites were tan-skinned. If Jesus really existed he was about as White as Osama Bin Laden. Not Black either but not White. He was of Middle Eastern descent.

 

yes, and the average guy who lived in Judea & Samaria back then was a darker skinned Caucasian.

like your average Sicilian.

 

Indeed there were 'whites' in the levant at the time, ironically it is these same whites who crucified the messiah, go figure. In fact if you want to read about 'whites in the levant' at the time then look no further than the brutal regimes of Rome and Ptolemy whom both took great pleasure in oppressing the local inhabitants. Gospels, Maccabees and Polybius' Histories.

 

But how can anyone truly know without meeting the man himself in death?

 

chances are he looked like your average Middle Easterner.

why should we assume anything else?

 

Why should we assume anything without actual facts present?

Until the man comes back like he said he would, we'll never really know. Each culture and country will depict him in whatever way they want to, but the fact remains no one alive has any clue what he looked like.

 

chances are he looked like your average Middle Easterner.

is it ok for for me to say that, or should I apologize?

 

You can say whatever you want. I'm just saying it's pointless to speculate or assume anything without him standing right here in front of us.

 

suggesting that he most likely looked like your average person of the Middle East, is informed speculation based on evidence and intelligent deduction.

 

A non-European, darker-skinned Caucasian. As I said these people aren't regarded as socially White in America today.

 

I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what Anglo-Saxon racists believe.

 

Your definition of White appears to differ from others. We can't objectively agree on who is "White" but we seem to agree that the people of the time and place Jesus was said to live were tan-skinned Middle Easterners, therefore if he existed he would have looked like that.

 

Yes there are. This is an Israeli Jew of middle eastern origins. As you can see he has white skin and blue eyes. Many middle eastern jews have these features, although the majority are darker including my dad who is brown skinned.

 

Thats not true. Mizrahi Jews have lived for thousands of years in Israel and other middle eastern countries, like Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Iran. We are native to the middle east and never went to nordic lands. Most of us have brown skin, but some of us are white. Same with the Iranians and Turks, there are variations within middle eastern phenotypes.

 

Most americans consider mediterranean europeans white, even some white supremacist groups do although it depends on how dark they are. Many spanish and portuguese, french, are white as are Italians and Greeks and Macedonians. But especially italians, most consider themselves white as do most other americans.

Yes, a significant portion of middle eastern jews have white skin and blue eyes, although the majority are dark skinned. The features are indigenous. I will post pics when my posts get approved, I'm still awaiting full membership.

 

A lot of Kurds are known to be blue eyed or red haired and have fair skin. Syrians too. And the persian people of Iran have a long history of having a portion of their population with fair features. Osama Bin Laden doesn't really represent levantines. I believe he is half syrian/half yemenite, but its obvious the yemenite phenotype is predominant. He looks like the gulf arabs who are much browner than levantines. Syrians and Lebanese, even some palestinian arabs are 'white' in comparison with people from Oman, Yemen, or Saudi Arabia on average.