Johnny Depp replaced by Ayo Edebiri in ‘Pirates Of The Caribbean 6’?

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not surprised Disney isn't going with Depp again, and I probably shouldn't be surprised with who they're replacing him with. The comments in the article are pretty rough, even Musk weighed in. If Disney didn't want Depp, then they should have ended the entire Pirates franchise.

    Disney must really love bad publicity, it's almost like they intentionally try to get it.

    For the record, I only saw the first two movies and the soundtrack for the first one is killer when played back on a high end system. The second one sucked and I never watched the ones that followed.

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    Looks like Captain Jack Sparrow may not be back in action! As per reports, the superstar is being dropped from the sixth installment of the iconic ‘Pirates Of The Caribbean’ franchise. The entertainment giant is considering actress Ayo Edebiri as a replacement for Depp. Her character is allegedly named Anne. The role is based on the life of Anne Bonny, a 17th-century female pirate.

    “Disney is reportedly considering Ayo Edebiri for the leading role in "Pirates 6," a film that would feature a younger cast of pirates in search of hidden treasure,” wrote Unlimited L’s, an X news handle.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...en-boycott/articleshow/107511823.cms?from=mdr
     
  2. Sleep Monster

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    How does this thread fit into the category of Political Opinions and Beliefs?

    Mods, this belongs in an entertainment category.
     
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    wait... there was a 5?

    Depp was a good Jack Sparrow. He's old tho. Hopefully they do like a 'Jack Sparrow isn't a person, but an idea' kinda thing, like the Dread Pirate Roberts. That would be better than just doing the 'he's a woman now.' But of course that's what they'll do. What is a woman anyway? :rolleyes:
     
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    Disney hasn't done anything here. This entire story is based on an unsourced tweet from a random account and a selected handful of self-promoting and knee-jerk reactions. Any "bad publicity" at this point is entirely manufactured.

    I'm not sure why you'd care enough to start the thread then. It doesn't seem like whatever they did for the sixth movie would impact you in any way what-so-ever.

    Maybe you're just automatically reacting to this "news" in the manner you've been trained to. It's always worth considering why you (think you) feel a particular way about something like this.
     
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    The theme of Disney is they're just making the shittier version of everything.

    If you have the movies with Johnny Depp why would you watch someone trying to pretend to be Johnny Depp?

    That's like going out and catching crap boiling crab peeling crab only to stop in the middle of it and go have some imitation crab.
     
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    No they're going to do what they always do they're going to ignore what was and just pretend that this is all there ever was.

    Did you see the remake of haunted Mansion it was absolute crap why would I watch that when I can watch the one with Eddie Murphy? That's like pouring white paint on your cereal despite the fact that you have milk in the refrigerator.
     
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    I think it's sad to dish a movie before it's even made.

    But it's also sad to try and regurgitate something over and over. Instead of pandering to a bygone era why doesn't Ayo Edebiri work with Disney to create a new pirate movie perhaps set in the east African coast.
     
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    Movie producers make money from cinema goers. They will have details of the demographic of all cinema goers and it's most likely white folks, so that's why they don't make good historical movies with a black cast, because a white cast will sell more tickets.

    That's not my theory but iDo believe it. Ridley Scott iThink said that.
     
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    She's definitely much prettier than Johnny Depp
     
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    Bullshit

    Clearly you know little about hollywood.

    They used to make money but now they lose it. They go woke and go broke.

    There are seberal examp;les of historically innacurate movies with black casts. They bomb because they put DEI over intelligent movie making.
     
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    Not when Holloywood is comstantly creating politically based bombs which which try to spread the wopke message and fail miserably
     
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    How scandalous! Next thing you know they'll be wanting to replace Sean Connery as 007.
     
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    Hell, this is way more silly to cry about than that. It isn't even the same character! They just have a different lead character! That's ****ing it. Pathetic. People actually get their panties in a twist about this?
     
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    Johnny Depp replaced by Ayo Edebiri in ‘Pirates Of The Caribbean 6’?


    Why does anyone care?
     
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    It's just the typical reactionary garbage. I'm seeing the same thing with this season of True Detective.
     
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    For some very sad reason, there are people who need something to be upset about.
     
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    I think you are wrong about that. Make the movie good and don't get all preachy and political with it with race baiting, and I don't think audiences will have any problem at all with an all not-white cast.
    Just look at how popular Squid Game was.

    Disney has become lazy and thinks it can buy an old franchise, race or gender swap some key characters, make little to no effort to either be true to the source material or write a good story, and it will do fine.
     
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    And when they create films that the RW claims are "woke," and then succeed (Barbie, Mario, etc), the RW just changes their tune and say that the film, on second thought, was anti-woke! RWers, especially those who parrot the "go woke go broke" lie vomit, are masters at the Texas sharpshooter fallacy.
     
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    There is no reason that social commentary based movies (or even straight out propaganda) can't or won't be entertaining and do well. Original star trek was very much social commentary. Where it goes wrong is when they think that is in itself enough to make a movie good.
     
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    I totally agree. There have been films with heavy political messages that I completely disagreed with, but that I still enjoyed. And, oh, hell yeah, Star Trek may well be, pound for pound, the most "woke" series in existence. But these days all you have to do is have a POC, queer, or female lead and the RW will come out of the woodwork screaming about wokeness.
     
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    I think for about a decade now (starting around the time of the all female Ghostbusters) Hollywood has been on this make garbage, make it woke, complain anybody who says it's garbage is a bigot pattern (She Hulk is another prime example).

    The Star Wars travesty also comes to mind. They tried to use "the force is female" pandering to excuse the complete that disorganized mess of a trilogy. Anyone who complained about the two directors who obviously didn't have a joint story plan from the start and who made interesting characters like Fin only to do nothing with them, was dismissed as a bigot.

    I think we are now starting to break out of it, and good films and TV with diverse casts and good stories are going to become more prevalent. I noticed this with Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which has a female heavy cast but doesn't use that as an excuse not to attempt good writing, and doesn't antagonize or talk down to it's viewers.
     
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    Sometimes, sure. Though She-Hulk was just fine. I don't know any fan of the character who disliked the show. And, yes, a lot of the backlash against both that and Ghostbusters was RW reactionary crap. Not to say that all of it is, but they are right when they say it was a big part.

    And, sure, there are lots of legit criticisms of the Star Wars stuff, but even that was largely driven by the same thing. The first thing I heard online RW critics complaining about was Finn. They said there shouldn't be a black storm trooper, which is ridiculous. But then they criticized Rey for being a "Mary Sue" for learning the force too quickly without enough training. I went back and watched the originally trilogy, and I honestly don't see how she's any different from Luke in that respect.
     
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    That's pure racism, yes. The problem with Fin isn't his race, it's that they had an excellent character concept with him, and did nothing with it, eventually turning him into comic relief and shouting Rey over and over. Captain Phasma is another waste and a good example of woke market pandering. She was heavily involved in the marketing only to end up pretty much a non-character. It was offensive to anyone who enjoyed that same actress in game of thrones.

    Like struggles from day one, is a bit of a loser at the start, loses his first fight with Vader, and is shown training with Yoda. I don't see any of that in Rey. There is some sexism in people not liking her, but there is also a lot of Mary Sue to her. She could have been great if written better, and would have been better accepted, as numerous female leads have in the past, including the lead in Rogue One, which is probably the best of modern star wars movies.
     
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    They tried saying he couldn't be black because they thought all storm troopers were clones, so at least they thought they had a basis for it. I'm with you on him being critically underused, though, and he's not the only one. He was probably my favorite character even starting from the first trailer. I just loved the idea of a defecting storm trooper, and I'm not even really a Star Wars fan.

    Rey is basically homeless from day one, and the force powers she first starts using don't seem all that different from the ones Luke used. And Luke, just like Rey, started using those powers before any real training. The most he gets from Obi Wan is a speech about the force and practicing with a drone for a bit. That's it. That's at least on par with the speech Rey gets from the character who gives her the light saber. So the only difference really is Yoda, but even that training wasn't really much from what we can see.
     
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    I don't think Depp falls into that category, but even if he did, this is not a political belief thread.
     
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