Jon Stewart compares Obama drones to Bush's torture

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  1. mikezila

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    yeah..."it's classified". so is the President's lunch menu for tomorrow.:roll:
     
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    Any military tribunal or court is to identify they are combatants or not. Not the approval or disapproval of a military combat operation against an enemy.

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    But not to the Select Joint Committee on Intelligence. If they believed that Obama was in the wrong, there are ways to "leak" that information to the NYT, Washington Post, Examiner, etc where they can publicly pressure the President. So far, that has not been the case.
     
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    so you admit that it hasn't been determined that this boy, or even his father were unlawful combatants. thank you for finally seeing the light.
     
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    Name "these people" and explain why we need to "get them".
     
  5. Alwayssa

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    He wasn't captured. He was killed and the tribunal does not apply in this case.

    It only happens if one is captured and presumed to be a terrorist. The Tribunal would determine if that was the case.
     
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    "We know" these? Who's we, exactly?

    And please cite the definition of "enemy combatant" you are using.

    We also know there's the biggest stronghold of AQ in Syria.. Why don't we attack them there, while they are carrying out genocide?
     
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    are you suggesting Senators should commit treason (giving aid to a declared enemy we ARE at war with), because the President is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag?

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    lol! "we can't prove he was a terrorist because we murdered him for being one!"
     
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    Exactly.. They don't know a single thing of who's targeted and why, but they just KNOW their trustworthy leaders have proof.

    You shouldn't assimilate information you don't have and can't verify, especially from these lying leaders who lied about the strikes.

    I would ask Alwayssa what security need there is to not disclose a target that you already killed.
     
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    Your comment is just empty bloviating, and all it's doing is promoting a continuing hatred of the wealthy, with no facts at all to back it up. What 'big money interests' were served in this drone strike? Unless you can name someone or something specific, your comment belongs in the trash.
     
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    American Al Qaeda Spokesman Calls on Americans to Attack at Home

    Posted: June 9, 2011



    Adam Yahiye Gadahn, an American Muslim convert from California who has appeared in Al Qaeda propaganda videos for nearly a decade, has called on Americans to launch attacks on U.S. soil.



    Gadahn, who appears in a 100 minute video entitled, "You Are Only Responsible for Yourself," says that "Muslims in the West have to remember that they are perfectly placed to play an important and decisive part in the jihad against the Zionists and Crusaders and to do major damage to the enemies of Islam."



    In the video, which was released on June 2, 2011, Gadahn notes that "America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms" and that listeners can "go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an identification card." He concludes with, "So what are you waiting for?"



    Gadahn suggests targeting institutions and leaders. "It's important," Gadahn says, "that we weaken our cowardly enemy's will to fight by targeting influential public figures in Crusader and Zionist government, industry and media."



    Gadahn's call echos those by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Al Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Since July 2010, AQAP has released five issues of its online English-language magazine Inspire, which employs accessible Western references and instructs readers to "fight jihad on U.S. soil." The fifth issue of Inspire, directs a reader to "focus on planning out attacks in the West… the mujahidin leadership are today asking the brothers in the West specifically to attack Western interests in the West instead of coming here to Yemen...."

    http://archive.adl.org/main_terrorism/gadahn_calls_for_attacks_at_home.html#.UwoJA7RBtqQ
     
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    I can see you just want to troll and not discuss the topic. I should have known sigh.
     
  12. happy fun dude

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    And why do you have to get him?
     
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    I would like to see the evidence through military tribunal which proves this assertion. Nothing less than that should be granted to American citizens if they're going to be executed without due process via drones - or any other method, for that matter.
     
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    If they are on foreign soil taking up arms against us then they deserve to be blown to (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    This, for example, is a good example of a hand-written death sentence. I would have no problem at all having a drone take this clown out.

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    I agree - if there is proof, and some protocol to document it and have it ruled upon in tribunal.
     
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    That was such a huge extrapolation of the word "combatant" that it meant that every single person in the world is a "combatant", and thus the word is pointless to even use in the first place.

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    What if they aren't armed?
     
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    It should be obvious. The guy is a traitor. He is fighting against his country and our soldiers and calling on Muslim Americans to go out, buy guns and attack Americans. He isn't alone doing that.
     
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    That would be really useful if I asked what he looked like.

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    Yep.

    Obama's definition for someone worthy of being targeted by a drone plane is any man.. Yep, if you're a man, you fit the bill.
     
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    Of course he's not alone in doing that. There's thousands calling for death to others, just like all around the world in all races and religions and countries. Do you think you'll stop this or something?

    I will rephrase my question. What would happen if you didn't "get him"?
     
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    We are talking of an American traitor not just anyone. Listen to him


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmhKutfJ48
     
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    enemy Combatant Definition eiyh the definition codified in the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

     
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    http://youtu.be/DkUTish7RhI
    Where is the drone up this guys but? He is calling for the death of Americans too. Why not drone strike him? He doesn't need a trial cause he is calling for war on Americans. Let's kill him now!!!!
     
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