Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He questioned the MOTIVATIONS of the entire prosecution/Witch Hunt.

    That was a BRUTAL start for the Grand Inquisitor.
     
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    FYI, if Trump did collude with the Russians, they could have spoken in code, and/or just non electronic communication. So your notion that the NSA would know is not valid.

    That said, the hard evidence is that Russia made a great effort to interfere and Trump's team did meet with Russian officials and lied about it. The investigation continues.
     
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    As well as the continued corruption of the Obama Swamp leftovers in the KGB-FBI/DOJ....
     
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    "I met a traveller from an antique land
    Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
    And on the pedestal these words appear:
    ‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

    Shelley

    Great allusion!
     
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    And the Hillary team got their information from Russians that started the whole thing but hey, maybe she wiped it with a cloth or something.
     
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    IOW , the judge is entirely CORRECT in the prosection's motivations.

    And the judge is showing how you "take down" fraudulent prosecution, it looks like....
     
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    I know, the goggles probably kept you from seeing the scope issue...Try a different color lens...
     
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    I wonder if there is still time for Mueller et al to exit stage left before their collective tail gets burned to a crisp?
    I suspect that are all pondering that question right now. :)
     
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    Yes, but the issue is not that of 'tactic' but the 'authority'.
     
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    Hmm...I don't know. If that were truly effective (and ethical) then Mueller is doing a terrible job executing that strategy. There are a lot of little fish in Trump's posy that he could be throwing charges against.
     
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    Travel ban upheld by USSC.
     
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    Didn't Huma insinuate a "moist towelette" could be used??
     
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    Details.... who needs facts when you can just "feel"??
     
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    Not at this point...there'll be a reckoning....
     
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    I may be wrong but I do not believe that is true...Didn't the Court simply refuse to look at the issue until the cases ongoing at the lower court level finished?
     
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    Exactly right. The Trump "investigation" is cover up operation to hide the corruption of the FBI/DOJ.

    "In September, Horowitz found that bureau investigators had allowed employees with dubious polygraph results to keep their top-secret clearances for months or even years, posing “potential risks to U.S. national security.” In one instance, an FBI IT specialist with top-secret security clearance failed four polygraph tests and admitted to having created a fictitious Facebook account to communicate with a foreign national, but received no disciplinary action for that."

    TIME MAGAZINE, The FBI Is in Crisis. It's Worse Than You Think, By ERIC LICHTBLAU, By ERIC LICHTBLAU 6:13 AM EDT, 5/14/18.
    http://time.com/5264153/the-fbi-is-in-crisis-and-america-is-paying-the-price/

    A cover-up that has failed.
     
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    You are wrong.
     
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    Potentially. Populating the agencies with agenda fueled progressives seems to have massively failed us. The thin veneer of being a "republican" married to the activist democrat model seems to be the first indication....
     
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    Another opinion on Mueller.

     
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    Ty!
     
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    Some asked why Rosenstein signed off on one of the FISA applications that allowed the FBI to cover all of Trumps campaign communications but there is a good writeup that looked at the timeline. Rosenstein was not aware of the cabal that put it together 10 months earler in the first place and that Strzok was part of that cabal. The OIG uncovered what was going on and brought it to Rosenstein's attention. It is one of the reasons the FISA application was not extended, why Strzok was removed from Mueller's team, and why Page was never charged with anything.
     
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    All great points.
     
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    :roflol: Its like I'm listening to Dick pills Jones himself when I read these threads.

    Mueller is a professional not a petulant child like Dick.pill Jones and Hannity.
     
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