Kremlin Furious: US Embassy Pushes Regime Change Protests In Russia

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most liberals live in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, so the protests are expected. To be honest, I think their biggest concern has to do with the New Constitution and how someone with dual citizenship and who hasn't resided in Russia for 30 years will not be able to run for office.

    I personally consider it a smart move on Vladimir Putin's part. He wants to retain Russia's culture and heritage and not have it taken over by Western liberalism. I'm not a globalist and I do not believe in imposing anything on anyone.
     
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    Yet no one can explain the circumstances around Navalny's poisoning, the number of witnesses, the whisking away by the authorities, the failure of Russian medical personnel to identify the poison or treat the patient, the doctors in Germany discovering the poison and successfully treating it.
    Is this another of those conspiracies that relies on a whole load of ordinary people agreeing to lie and sticking to it, without a single one breaking rank?
    I think RT might be painting a lop sided picture of public opinion, unless Russians are very stupid.
     
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    I didn't like the "zeroing" of presidential terms.
     
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    Yes, stupid, they drink a lot of vodka and play the balalaika.It is useless to explain to those who do not want to listen. There were many topics, but you simply ignore the arguments of your opponents and prefer not to answer uncomfortable questions.
     
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    Can you read Headlines?
     
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    RT is a state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government. It operates pay television channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in English, Spanish, French, German, Arabic, and Russian.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)
     
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    So Russian liberals are raising up against hypocrisy and corruption? I suppose its good that someone does.
     
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    Hmmm! Now didn't the doctors at Charite' say that the Russian doctors saved his life? Oh that's right, that was before the British agents arrived to tell them differently.

    I read that Novichek is a very strong poison and that anyone who comes in contact with it dies. This means Charite must be some hospital. They not only saved Navalny's life, but the lives of all the witnesses too.


    Bravo :applause: Charite. Now they can send Putin all that knowledge and information about Navalny's poisoning they asked for, so they can start saving lives too.

    I find RT and Sputnik more informative than the MSM corporate news, and the British owned BBC. But even though they don't repeat verbatim the MSM spin, they seem to hesitate lately in expressing opposing opinions.

    Not that it matters, I prefer facts and information.
     
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    never even thought about like that ... just a term I picked up ... I didn't coin it ...
     
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    Navalny *appears* to be a Soros color revolution against Putin.

    However, [former KGB/FSB Chief] Putin excels at psyops... so Navalny may be Putin's "controlled opposition"
     
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    I don't think that's the real concern of the liberals in Russia. I think their concern has to do more with the new Constitution, since it insures that Russia will retain it's traditional values. Most of the regime changes by George Soros' Open Society Foundation likes to use corruption as a means to arouse the people, and to get them to install a Western puppet as president

    It's the Western puppets that are corrupt, since they're willing to sell their country for their own pockets. Of course they'll rationalize it in some way, but the people do suffer when they forcefully take over the government. Rarely are they voted in.

    It's because of these regime change protests that George Soros and his Foundation have been banned in so many countries.
    Anyway it's good that the START Treaty has been extended, because the way things are going, a war seems imminent.
     
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    I think Navalny is just a nuisance, and another propaganda asset for those who want to break up the Russian Federation and grab it's wealth. He's playing a dangerous game though, because if the ones who support him feel he's not giving them what they want, they might decide he's of more use to them dead than alive. Navalny won't be the first.
     
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    Under Putin's rule, many Russian Orthodox churches have been built.
     
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    A US president could have unlimited terms until the US constitution was amended to only allow two terms. Eisenhower was the first to be subject to limited terms.

    Counting from Vladimir the Great, the Rus had an autocratic Christian monarchy for over 900 years - until evil revolutionaries destroyed Russia's monarchy and murdered Russia's last Tsar and his family.

    Today, many Rus see Putin as their new Tsar.
     
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    So you've done the classic conspiracy tack. Don't address my points, just invent your own.
    So I repeat, every German doctor, nurse, passenger on the plane, airport staff member, ambulance driver, consultant, lab technician was approached by the secret service and agreed to tell a lie about what they'd seen just to get Putin overthrown.
    If you'd said this happened in NK I might just believe you, but not in Germany.
     
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    Traditional values like removing presidential term limits? And only liberals oppose that? Everyone should oppose politicians amending constitutions to give themselves more power. It is the very definition of corruption.

    You spend a lot of energy supporting Russian corruption.
     
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    Did you see my recent previous posts here?

    Originally US presidents could have unlimited terms.

    Russian traditions go back a thousand years. For the first 900 years Russia was an autocratic Christian monarchy... until evil revolutionaries destroyed Christian Russia.

    It may be difficult for Americans to understand... but traditional ethnic Russians like Putin ruling like a Tsar!
     
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    Yes I am sure the Russian government is going to provide truthful facts via their news media.
     
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    Sixty thousand churches were burned by the criminal Bolsheviks who were not Russians. Many of the churches had people inside. From the time the Soviet Union fell, over 30 thousand churches have been built. The wealth and grandeur of some of the cathedrals amazes me.

    The latest is the Church for the Armed Forces of Christ's Resurrection, and it was built by one of the oligarchs. It's to commemorate those who died in past wars. To be honest, I think Putin is trying to prepare the armed forces spiritually, because a war against the liberal new world order looks imminent.



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    The evil antichrist Bolsheviks destroyed thousands of churches and mass-murdered millions of Christians!

    Thank you for the photos.

    I've read news articles and seen other photos of that interesting new church.

    Below is a photo of awesome doors being put in place during construction. One figure appears to be St Michael... but who is the other figure, St George ??


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    Well, they didnt go back to the Tsarist rule, or Christian monarchy, they entered a brand new era where Vladimir Putin increased his own power. How you put so much effort into supporting Putin and such corruption is beyond me. Maybe they want to return to the USSR style system, which seems to be where Putin is taking them.
     
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    The ones who are in control of our government, do not care what the Russians say they like. If they don't say they want to be like us, that means they're brainwashed.:roll:

    As for Russia's new constitution, it takes the power away from the Russian President, but he can run for more than two terms if the people vote him in. If you noticed, no one says anything about how many years Merkel's been Chancellor or how long Netanyahu has been Prime Minister. But that's okay, they're liberals and not Christians, which seems to be the only criteria they have - except for Sunni Muslims. They're allowed to be as autocratic and authoritarian as they want.


    Anyway I don't see our democracy, or the democracies in Britain, France, or Germany, etc., faring so well. So what gives us a right to tell Russia what it should and shouldn't do?



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    can those in charge now say the same?

    My problem was I feared my head
    that I might lose it and be dead
    and gave away my rights instead.

    And this is why you foolish folk
    are looked upon now as a joke
    controlled by every criminal bloke

    who can buy the media - Jeannette


     
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    It's never too late for Russia to return to Tsarist rule.

    Ironically, Russia's 1990s Bolshevism to "democracy" chaos may have been only the first step back to the Third Rome.

    Russia's first February 1917 revolution [which was praised by US President Wilson in his April 1917 war speech] was "democratic". This first revolution destabilized Russia ["democrats" imprisoned Russia's Tsar and his family] and paved the way for the horrific October 1917 Bolshevik revolution [the evil antichrist Bolsheviks murdered Russia's Tsar and his family.]
     
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    It probably is Saint George. He's the patron saint of Russia and held in very high esteem. He's also the patron Saint of Britain, but I doubt if they hold any Saint in esteem today. And yet the Muslims do. Three hundred thousand Turks went to Saint George's shrine near Istanbul on the day he's commemorated.
     
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    The family seal of ancient Persian King Cyrus [who is also a Biblical hero] reminds me of St George's iconic image.

    Cyrus' family seal is a warrior on horseback spearing a human enemy [instead of a dragon] while dead enemies are being trampled underfoot. In addition, iconic St George rides a white horse... and white horses were sacred to the ancient Aryan Achaemenid Persians.

    https://www.livius.org/site/assets/files/7181/thumbnail_cyrus_ansan_seal.gif
     
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