Kyle Rittenhouse from bullied teen, to Kenosha Killer ?

Says you! It is not proven that he acted in self defense.He may have or he may have not.

 

Show us the evidence which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle instigated or escalated the conflict in a manner that legally negates a claim of self-defense.

 

Oh, if only you had read post #175...

 

A good prosecutor may be able to use those facts to plant the revelation in the mind of the jury that Kyle was not just an innocent kid defending himself.

Just for ha ha 's does the fact that some people consider one or both of the guys Kyle killed to be Pedophiles support Kyle's claim of self defense?

 

That sounds fair.

 

And the defense will tear it apart - "character", absent actual evidence, does not constitute proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

I would to a person with an open mind not hell bent on defending either half of the degenerates at Kenosha that night

 

Video evidence. If he wanted to shoot people why would he walk around and interact with people, including cops? Get his face on video. HELP PEOPLE??? And right after the shooting, call 911?? Someone going there to murder people wouod have shot from the outskirts and ran. Nobody wouod have known what was going on because he’d be gone after the first clip.

REALITY as usual disagrees with your bizarre assessment of what you “think” happened. Trayvon was just minding his own business and a scared harmless little kid. Michael Brown said don’t shoot and surrendered on his knees. Blake was just trying to break up a fight and the cops shot him in the back while trying to drive his kids home Trump supporters are burning down Democrat cities. And cops wake up some mornings thinking, might have to shoot me some blacks today...according to Lebron. /derp derp derp. /gag /vomit

 

What proof would you require? Is the video not enough evidence for you?

 

Sorry but in the absence of police there is only the citizens and the citizens need to step up because this doesn't appear to be going away. If we don't stand together, it could be your neighborhood next and there won't be anyone to stand with you when the mob comes.

 

This kid went there to shoot people. He crossed state lines with an assault weapon to ostensibly “protect “ businesses.

He had NO means of doing anything ( being a pudgy 17 yr old) to stop anyone from doing anything other than his assault weapon.

In fact the first person he killed had thrown a bag of water at him. His response was of course to shoot that person to death.

Self defense? Hardly

And after that he was nothing but an “active shooter”.

There is no self defense claim for an active shooter

 

The video shows one slice in time. We do not see what he did before he started running. Why was he running? Was he running because the pursuers neede to disarm him because was he posing a threat? Did he threaten people at the scene? Those are all unknowns.

 

Interesting take on the situation.

You are hinting that the kid had a state of mind of a shooter, right?

 

It appears so

 

We’ll see what defines self defense. Bringing a rifle was overkill, but not illegal. Then again, he’s be dead right now without it. Beat to death with a skateboard.

Again. If all he wanted to do was kill people, why help them first? Why get yourself on camera everywhere? Why interact with police? Why retreat first before shooting? Why hang out there for so long before shooting people? Why call 911? Explain.

I have a feeling this is a other case of one person who knows the details of the event trying to be rational with someone who doesn’t have a clue what actually happened. Didn’t you claim Michael Brown had his hands up? Didn’t you claim Trayvon was just running home in fear from the scary white guy? Did t you claim Trump was a Russian spy? Yeah. That’s you. You know as much as the MSM allows you to know. You know as much as you choose to know which is always very little.

 

Not true. I never said it was illegal to bring that assault weapon. I said it was his only means of dealing with anything and he proved that by shooting someone to death who had thrown a bag of water at him.
He interacted with police because he was one of those lost souls who idolize cops. In his fantasy he was a cop and the cops accepted him.

 

Our complex is on an upward slope we call The Hill. We have a 50 ft semi circle with landscape boulders that gives us a 120 degree arc with a virtually clear sector of fire looking down hill. On the right side near the bottom of the hill is a water retention pond. We could station a couple snipers on deck to stop flanking around the pond. On the left flank we have 5 decks facing the entryway two snipers can keep a mob busy on the left. At the landscape boulders we could station 5 or six people with semi automatic weapons. That is how we could protect ourselves from a mob. We have woods on the other three sides but a mob would not be coming from that way. Those three sides would be a problem with trained militia probing through. We would need to have a ground patrol and also snipers or decks with a view of the woods. All of our buildings have the rear of the buildings facing the woods with each unit having a second story deck/ balcony which offers a good sniper position.

Ours is an adult community but 40 % of our households have a Veteran. We are older but we could still hold off a mob if we ever had to. Hopefully without casualties except to attackers.

The closest city of 100,000 is 20 miles away so I would not expect a mob from that city. Two other cities are 50 and 60 thousand population but they each had one BLM demonstration a while ago but both were peaceful.

I have been floating the idea of having our board of directors purchase a drone which I believe we could use to monitor the main approach road and fly over the woods and we could monitor the camera on iPads, MACS, and phones. I am on the board so one vote is guaranteed, two more gives me a majority.

 

Says the several videos relating to the before, during, and after the event. I am not sure how anyone seeing all the videos would think he wasn't acting in self defense.

 

You like most all of us see what we want to see.

Look at the Blake case. Some see several policemen chasing after a guy that does not have any weapon in his hand. Yet he was heading to his car for some king of weapon. So Blake gets shot why? Because he could have gotten himself armed and could have become threat.

Kyle was obviously armed. No argument there. Kyle appeared to be or acted like a threat. Why was Kyle running away? What did he do to make him run?

 

You saw a video of him shooting his first victim?

No?

Oh...

 

Yes I did actually. It's on the internet. This guy with a red shirt on his head chases him and throws a flaming something at him and misses. He then chases down and attacks Kyle who is 'Running AWAY' and then 'CORNERED' by this guy. Kyle rightly shoots the guy.

 

Nope...he was being chased because he had ALREADY killed a man

 

The little sh*t stain provoked people with one thing in mind...a reason to shoot and kill them. A two year old has that one figured out.

 

He was being chased by the first man he killed.

 

Translation:
You know you have no such evidence.
Disagree?
Show us the evidence which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle instigated or escalated the conflict in a manner that legally negates a claim of self-defense.