Kyle Rittenhouse from bullied teen, to Kenosha Killer ?

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    So if you can speak for everyone else what's the point in debating?
     
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    Your ignorant opinion as to his motivations means nothing.
    Humans create and use tools for all kinds of things they cannot otherwise do. Firearms are no different.
    How do you not recognize this?
    Your statement,m above, contains no fact.
    You cannot cite evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt, that he did NOT act in self-defense, as required by WI law.[/QUOTE]
     
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  3. TurnerAshby

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    It was a ziploc bag that caught the light of a street light
     
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    Hyper-partisan hatred of anyone who dare stand up to the #BLMob.
     
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    What's that?
    You - can't- show us the evidence which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle instigated or escalated the conflict in a manner that legally negates a claim of self-defense?
    Thought not.
    Thanks.
     
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    Demonstrate this to be true.
    Demonstrate how this negates his claim of self-defense.
     
  7. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    You translate for everyone ie put words in their mouth so what's the point of being on a debate site?
     
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    Still waiting for you to show us the evidence which proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Kyle instigated or escalated the conflict in a manner that legally negates a claim of self-defense.
    Evidence you know you don't have.
     
  9. TurnerAshby

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    [/QUOTE]
    "Your statement,m above, contains no fact."

    No fact huh?

    "Prosecutors said Rosenbaum followed Rittenhouse into a used car lot, where he threw a plastic bag at the gunman and attempted to take the weapon from him"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13.com/amp/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake/6393801/
     
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    Why so you can just translate it to mean whatever you what it to mean? Nah I'll pass
     
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    You're catching on to how he operates
     
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    And how does a ziplock bag fly and why would anyone throw a bag?
     
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    When you leave your home in Illinois with a loaded semi automatic AK 47 strapped around your neck, drive 20 miles to Kenosha Wisconsin, you clearly are not driving there to wish the natives well. After he had shot and killed two people and severely wounded a third, he calmly called his friend in Illinois( I presume) to inform him he had just killed someone. Sounds like someone who enjoys killing to me.
     
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    That is very possible.
     
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    With enough weight inside of it and it was probably full of foul crap tbh
     
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    We don't know what precipitated the event. Unless you want to speculate that the victim was randomly trying to disarm people, there was a reason he pursued Rittenhouse. We can speculate all day on what that reason was. It could be anything from Rittenhouse threatening violence to the victim threatening violence. If the victim was only trying to disarm Rittenhouse, then that would not appear to support a claim of threats from the victim. If the victim was planning on disarming Rittenhouse and then killing him, sure, that would support self defense.

    We don't know. What I do know is family men who throw bags of water and guys who ride skateboards are generally not violent people. Kinda the opposite. What happened here will be tried in court. We'll have to wait and see.
     
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    Perhaps, but it could also be a 17 year old who found himself in a situation he couldn't handle. I don't think he had a clue what he was getting into, and he panicked. He definitely had no business being there. I don't know why, but this event reminds me of the poor little girl who killed the gun instructor with an Uzi. Very sad.

    There's a saying among motorcycle riders that fits perfectly with guns.

    Motorcycles are not inherently dangerous, but are tragically unforgiving of mistakes.

    No one should have let this kid out of the house with his AR. Just like no one should have let that poor girl fire an Uzi.
     
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    I dont think I was speculating just pointing out someone else's factual inaccuracy is all. I will say its befuddling to watch people defend anyone at that protest/riot either side.
     
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    The cops, who seemed to welcome the killer with open arm, s need to be identified and at the very least disciplined as the killer was not legal to open carry in Wisconsin.
     
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    For what other reason did go there armed and all the way from Illinois?
     
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    He's 17, and apparently enamored with Trump. Who knows what's going on with the kid. All I can say is something seems a little off. Is this a new phenomenon among 17 year old boys or am I just behind the times? What kind of 17 year old American male becomes obsessed with Donald Trump?
     
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    Of course. I was commenting further on the information you provided in the link. I think speculating on what happened is foolish. Trump has already politicized the case, and I'm wondering if the kid can get a fair trial; or if the People can get a fair prosecution.
     
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    your revisionism is pathetic....you leave out that the native nations that were here for a millennium before your ancestors showed up were FORCED to "assimilate"...do some research on the re-education schools, reservations, etc.
    Black folk were SLAVES, not "indentured servants" who were OFFICIALLY CLASSIFIED AS NOT WHOLLY HUMAN. The "special rights" you go on about sure as hell don't point out the FACTS that laws had to be amended in order for black folk just to be humans, have the SAME civil rights as you. Hell, the law that guaranteed my right to be educated anywhere my parents wanted to send me is just 4 younger than myself. "Jim Crow" laws ended just 60 years ago. We had to FIGHT FOR THAT, hell the "Indians" are STILL fighting for their rights, against broken treaties, etc.

    So spare us all this back door justification for Rittenhouse's crime.

    And yes, Daly was a POS...that is and has been history's judgement. Are you saying that 2 wrongs make a right with the Orange Oaf in office?
     
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    Illinois gun laws are much STRICTER THAN WISCONSINS. In order for him under age 21 to get an Illinois FOID permit from the state police in Illinois he must have a written permission slip signed by his parents and notarized. If he has no FOID or drove with a functioning loaded weapon in his vehicle in Illinois,he broke their laws. And if he did have his parents signatures to own a weapon his actions have put their home and future livelihood in serious risk of being lost in a lawsuit by survivors of the deceased. In other words this kid is a moron.
     
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    To protect business and people from the violent mob. At least the first half was his claim before all this started. I think the mob was upset they couldn't burn more cars
     

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