Lancet Study - Full Lockdowns Not Associated With Significant Reductions In Mortality

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  1. kreo

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    I personally examined 4 hospitals. (2 in Florida 2 in Illinois) you can search YouTube as well about armature videos about empty hospitals.
     
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    CDC reports everything correctly at least they present relative data.
    We already about two months into full recovery, i.e. since the beginning of June number of excess deaths is very small comparing to averages.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm
     
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    Sure all in hard hit areas are not full. Ours are though. I heard what Texas was and Florida but didn't pay attention. They were not maxed out though.

    We may get there though depending on if it picks up in flu season.

    Thing is only old folks like me are at great risk of death unless it starts killing more younger people.. Just depends on how it mutates.

    To me it looks like we can fully open up and let the old stay at home since most don't work anymore.
     
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    You wear a mask so that the others you come into contact with, some of whom MUST be out and about, do not then transfer the illness to those who are isolated / isolating. It's is exactly not rocket science.
     
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    You forgot the time to die. Funny how people try to stay alive.
     
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    Ah, look fresh bullshit!
     
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    Of course, everything is bull.sh.it that does not fit into progressive / antiTrump agenda/
     
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    CDC reports that, according to excess deaths, we are underestimating COVID deaths by at least ~30,000. And I doubt anyone at the CDC backs up your claim that we are in "full recovery."
     
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    while reported counts are weighted to account for potential underreporting in the most recent weeks, the true magnitude of underreporting is unknown. Therefore, weighted counts of deaths may over- or underestimate the true number of deaths in a given jurisdiction.
    So?
    If number of deaths is not different from average number of deaths that means we are done with the COVID-19.
    You people want to continue to play concentration camp game, I do not.
    I did not say a word against anything in March, April, May.
    But now, it is just ridiculous and it is not funny.
     
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    Again, the CDC disagrees.

    Fake comparisons to concentration camps are ridiculous, not funny. I'm sorry you insist on ignoring the CDC that you claim to respect and I'm sorry you feel the need to invoke fake concentration camp comparisons. I'll stick with the facts. You stick with pretending to and with fake Nazi invocations.
     
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    Again, it all goes back to choice. Giving a person choice is the most selfless act you can commit, rather than acting as if you have a virus you likely don’t have, or have developed passive immunity to. If anything, those who are mask-less are at a higher risk. And why do we take that high risk? To perform the selfless act of choice. If we really are this worried about transmitting a virus, then we would wear masks every cold and flu season, or every fall and winter.
     
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    I could not find anything about 30000 underestimated.
    Masks are the source of infection they are dirty
     
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    Nope, not at all. But your posts are both fresh and surprisingly rancid.
     
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    You would be appearing to attempt to gussy selfishness up in virtuous clothing. You would also be failing.
     
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    UK decided children are not vectors of the virus and do not pass it on to adults. Schools in UK opening this fall.
     
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    Par for the nonsensical course taken by BJ and his mob.
     
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    No "they" didn't. We are opening up schools because out total deaths from all causes is now at near average for this time of year and out Covid deaths are now at less than a hundred per day and positive cases have remained stable
     
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    Really? Which of these similar countries went into lockdown?
    Sweden: deaths per million: 564
    Norway: deaths per million: 47
    Finland: deaths per million: 59
     
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    Masks in themselves ae a garment. They are not a safety device. Now, if I told you not to wear a seatbelt (a actual safety device) while cruising down the highway, that would be selfish while endangering others. Masks are simply not on the same scale, and is a apples to oranges comparison. Same as if you compared masks to life vests, airbags, or even fire extinguishers. So, n actuality, what I'm talking about isn't an attempt to gussy selfishness in virtuous clothing.

    Because again, I will repeat it like a broken record because its true, not wearing a mask is more of a risk than not wearing one. It is the same as pushing a friend out of the way of a moving car, and is a true apples to apples comparison.
     
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    You do "repeat it like a broken record" but it is no more true the hundredth time than it was the first
     
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    I do not know what you mean by saying that, but yes we have NO reason to continue COVID-19 hysteria, lockdowns and dog muzzle wearing.
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    That is BS statistics.
    Numbers should be presented as relative numbers, i.e. how many more people have died at this time period comparing to same time period.
    Also, we do not know deaths were counted.
     
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    Which numbers are BS? Relative to what? If you are referring to total number of deaths from all causes other than Covid, why would those countries have different stats to the other countries in the triad for those number of other causes of deaths? Perhaps you can present those number of deaths from all causes other than from Covid so that we can see Sweden having lower number of deaths per million compared to Norway and Finland?
     
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    I can only talk about United States. The numbers at CDC site presented as relative numbers, I do not know how statistics is presented in Sweden.
    Your number means nothing they are presented just to support COVID-19 hysteria.
     
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    More asshattery.
     

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