Let's put this myth to rest once and for all: The Republican Party is NOT the "pro-life" party.

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No thank you for your desperate "I will make up a motive and assign it to you for lack of anything of substance".

    And no you do not have the right to get rid of them by killing them unless they pose an imminent threat to you and the law you are citing does not apply to an expectant mother so you lose all around with your desperate stretch.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Post #405 which you cannot rebut or refute the medical and women's health and even the government saying so.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    The issue is about choosing TO KILL the baby which you support.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    No it does not by any stretch.

    Babies are unborn or born it makes no difference as I showed you from the medical, women's health and governments. It's not a right it's a fact.

    [​IMG] (bābē)
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    n. pl. ba·bies
    1.
    a.
    A very young child; an infant.
    b. An unborn child; a fetus.
    c.
    The youngest member of a family or group.
    d. A very young animal.
    https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/s... young person who behaves in an infantile way.

    Why is it you have to deny the meanings of words in order to defend your position?
     
  5. JonK22

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    Let's assume you're correct. AND? They are asking for asylum, they get to ask, over 97% who have attorney's how up to every court hearing, even without attorney's (which we should provide to help with the crisis) over 90% of ASYLUM SEEKERS show up to all court hearings!

    BTW, ICE does ask questions about country of origins, it would be difficult, imo, for the mostly low educated to con the ICE guys on where their from
     
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    And its still not an invitation.
     
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    I say report 100% of those killing a baby to the police, it's a crime in all 50 US states and even the territories :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
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    No I don't, I actually don't care which choice a woman makes, only that she has one.
     
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    No you do not, legal asylum seekers must seek asylum in the first country whose border they cross. When they cross our border ILLEGALLY they are ILLEGAL ALIENS. They register to get a court date or otherwise clearance to stay under the Biden administration and are subject to deportation because they are here illegally but still entered illegally.

    Why on earth do you want more than TWO MILLIONS a year of illegal entries by people who cannot speak the language, many if not most without a basic education, no money, no where to live, no job.

    Why do you support that and the problems that come with it?
     
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    It is reported under some circumstances and prosecuted.
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    Cool then the right wing needs to get off the backs of women who want to abort their fetus's
     
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    Several things. CNN is hard to accept as a quality source. The Tribune is a worthless liberal mouthpiece. Did you quote them for their conformity to your opinion then? Seems as much. When CNN makes the assertion absent any actual evidence, and you then cite it, do you believe you are giving their baseless assertion more credibility?
     
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    Who checks again? When folks aren't being interacted with by border patrol? Or by customs? You are citing a standard essentially not used in this series of evidence. Of those who come across, what percentage are engaged in this manner?
     
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    I don't believe that incorrectly naming a country of origin is difficult. To get to our border, they must get through the cartels territory and pay their price. They used wristbands to keep track of who paid.

    Illegal immigration provides carters with a steady flow of income so they can grow and strengthen their grip on society back home. Tolerating/supporting illegal immigration is not from a position of concern for humanity.
     
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    "European law, the Dublin Regulation, requires that asylum seekers have their asylum claim registered in the first country they arrive in"

    WE IN EUROPE NOW?

    "There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country. There is a requirement for the first safe country in which they arrive to hear their asylum claim but, if this does not happen for any reason, the refugee is then free to make their asylum claim elsewhere."



    Trump Administration Implementing 'Safe 3rd Country' Rule On Migrants Seeking Asylum


    Asylum-seeking immigrants who pass through a third country en route to the U.S. must first apply for refugee status in that country rather than at the U.S. border.


    The restriction will likely face court challenges, opening a new front in the battle over U.S. immigration policies.


    The interim final rule will take effect immediately after it is published in the Federal Register on Tuesday, according to the departments of Justice and Homeland Security.

    The new policy applies specifically to the U.S.-Mexico border, saying that "an alien who enters or attempts to enter the United States across the southern border after failing to apply for protection in a third country outside the alien's country of citizenship, nationality, or last lawful habitual residence through which the alien transited en route to the United States is ineligible for asylum."

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/7417...telling-potential-refugees-to-apply-elsewhere


    CARE TO GUESS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RULE?

    Jun 30, 2020 — A federal court invalidated the Trump administration's 2019 asylum restrictions, which required seekers to apply to a third country.
     
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    Sorry I forgot the ICE agents are easily duped *shaking head*


    There are 2 main issues, imo

    First ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS IN THE US LURING PEOPLE WITH JOBS

    Second is crisis in nations that are falling apart (like we'll see in Russia soon) and the right wing unable to realize to help those nations is to stop the desire to leave their homes/families/friends.

    Good Gov't policy, not 'AmeriKKKa first" BS
     
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    More projection.
     
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    If that was all it was, you'd be correct. But as usual the side that relies on bumper sticker "thinking" for actual factual data and reality is wrong.
     
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    It isn't person with right because fix Hastings said so. Gee sounds like the same argument slave owners and racists use and assorted other totalitarians, but then it's coming from a leftist so what else would you expect
     
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    No it doesn't.
     
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    I don't have a side. Fake documents is one of the cartels specialty.

    I appreciate those willing to discuss facts. Can you address the facts I brought up? Are you aware of how illegal immigration allows the cartels to grow and strengthen their grip on the poor people back home? Tolerating/supporting illegal immigration is not from a position of concern for humanity.
     
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