Let's put this myth to rest once and for all: The Republican Party is NOT the "pro-life" party.

FoxHastings said: ↑
Feel free to PROVE IT You haven't yet

Feel free to PROVE IT You haven't yet


YOU have been shown the studies....if you don't believe them that's on you...


So what !??? Expectant mothers do NOT create science or make the laws.

So if a woman says she has a watermelon in her tummy you think it's REALLY a watermelon ????!!! LOL:OLOLOL


FoxHastings said: ↑
You are correct. YOU can call it anything you want but that does NOT change the FACT that if it isn't born then it isn't a person with rights.


OH I LOVE IT wen the righties bring up the slave crap....slaves were BORN people with rights, the right to bodily autonomy so that's why slavery was wrong..

.The righties want to take away women's right to bodily autonomy MAKING THEM SLAVES.

No, but they do get to have abortions IF they have the same rights YOU and everyone else has.


But thank you again for proving that Anti-Choicers are all and only about punishing women for having sex

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
If you invite someone onto your property and they attack and harm you you have the right to get rid of them any way you can.
Inviting someone onto your property is NOT giving them the right to do anything they please...

I was discussing this with someone who thinks women invite a fetus in..( biologically stupid but...shrug) so she has to put up with any harm done to her by the fetus.
Which is stupid and illogical..

This is a fact: If you invite someone onto your property and they attack and harm you you have the right to get rid of them any way you can.
Inviting someone onto your property is NOT giving them the right to do anything they please...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
.The righties want to take away women's right to bodily autonomy MAKING THEM SLAVES.

Easy to tell you can't address it ...or maybe not understand it ?

Now what's a Poe....something that stumps you ?

 

What a sophomoric post. Richard would be ashamed to have his image associated with this piece of idiocy.

You should change your avatar to something more appropriate, like bozo.

 

Uh no you want them to be slaves to your lust with the ability get rid of whatever unwanted progeny that may occur along the way. To be a slave to lust to the point of murdering your kids is not freedom it is the worst form of slavery.

 

Hilarious! I especially like the Oh So Dramatic ""slaves to your lust" whatever TF that means....


THAT is what Anti-Choicers use as an argument ???? Entertaining but really silly..

 

Funny how so many folk on the right respond to posts they haven't read.

This is why there are more blogs and pseudo-news outlets designed to fool right wingers: it's much more difficult to fool folks on the left. Left wingers tend to read the whole CONTENT and not just the title.

 

Thank you for once AGAIN showing that Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having sex.

 

funny how you need to put to bed I myth you were the only one that believed it.

Attempts to insult people who don't agree with you just shows how weak your position is.

 

Oh? Nobody believed that the Republican Party was the "pro-life" party? Great! That makes me even happier.

 

So to your other feats you add inability to understand plain English? Good to know. It does explain ever so many things.

 

Oh so now we're moving to go post.

Trademark golem dishonesty. Then again I guess you have to be in order to believe the nonsense you post.

 

It's a Poe when you say "what motive?" are you projecting and then immediately tell us in the next post the motive you are projecting...

 

No. It's more like somebody kidnapping you and then shooting you for trespassing while you are handcuffed and blindfolded the whole time.

The mother (and father) put the unborn into the predicament she is in. And you want to blame the unborn....

 

Is having sexual intercourse 100% guaranteed to result in conception. Yes or no?

 

Its very simple, if the woman doesn't want it inhabiting her body she has every right to have it removed even if this results in its death

 

No. So I agree it isn't necessarily that she wanted to get pregnant. Quite likely she didn't. But it's a risk she was aware of and did decide to take. It's not unfair to say she should take responsibility for it, as should the father.

This is like asking if drunk driving always causes accidents, if smoking always causes cancer, or if children playing with loaded guns always results in dead siblings. The answer in each case is no, but....

Take responsibility. The question of if the unborn is a being with a right to live and how to weigh that right against the bodily autonomy of the mother are separate questions where pro-choice can make their case. But in any case, other than in case of rape, the mother is and should be held responsible for being pregnant. It didn't simply happen to her. She isn't a victim.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑


Hilarious! I especially like the Oh So Dramatic ""slaves to your lust" whatever TF that means....


THAT is what Anti-Choicers use as an argument ???? Entertaining but really silly..

I understand English just fine ....but your emotional dramatic and silly "slaves to your lust" needs explaining...it's just TOO TOO ridiculous..

You don't seem to understand English when I described slavery and bodily autonomy....maybe you should try again

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
.The righties want to take away women's right to bodily autonomy MAKING THEM SLAVES.





Easy to tell you can't address it ...or maybe not understand it ?

Now what's a Poe....something that stumps you ?

LOL, NOW you're dodging with "motive"? "motive " for what? I didn't mention "motive"....why are you??

Why can't you address the post of mine you quoted????

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
This is a fact: If you invite someone onto your property and they attack and harm you you have the right to get rid of them any way you can.
Inviting someone onto your property is NOT giving them the right to do anything they please...

Sorry, but you just do NOT get what the other poster and I were discussing

SHOW where I "blame the unborn" ???? YOu can't so why did you say that???

I placed no blame......what TF....try slowing down and actually READING a post before replying.

 

Having an abortion is not 'abdicating personal responsibility"... it's exercising it.

 

The bodily autonomy argument is an interesting one. The idea being that nobody should have to use their body to help or provide for anybody else against her or his will.

But I rarely see this argument examined further...

If the same woman grabbed a 3 year old and held him over the side of a cliff, would you say the state should not require her to put the child safely down? It's her arm. Does she have a right to simply drop the child to splatter on the rocks below?

The draft (or registering for selective service) also comes to mind, and I would expect anyone making a bodily autonomy argument to oppose drafts during war.

Child support orders also come loosely to mind, though that's a step removed. The payors bodily autonomy is only infringed in that he has to work to make that money.

I personally think the bodily autonomy argument, while much better than the blaming the unborn line of argument FoxHastings was going down, isn't as good as the simple argument that the unborn as usually not developed anywhere near the point of development at time of abortion that we should afford it any rights or view it as one of us.

An acorn is not a tree.

 

Uh huh... Comparing it to somebody attacking and trying to harm you isn't placing any blame on them. Got it. Do you hear yourself? There are MUCH better arguments for legal abortion than trying to remove personal responsibility from the mother and shifting it onto the unborn she created.

 

Do you read your own conversations? Somebody noted you were declaring a motive you accused others of having. You asked "what motive" and then you immediately again did exactly what they said you did before, and accused "righties" of said motive. They didnt state said motive. You assigned it to them.

 

Statement of fact. Nothing emotional about it. Sexual addiction is one of the fastest growing problems in western society. And like it or not addiction is slavery.