Lies about the Talmud

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the New Testament says that when Jesus returns, only 200,000 Jews will survive.

    I guess that means the rest of us shall be slaughtered
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to the Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. V page 619 Jews were taught to believe that only they were men; everyone else was a barbarian.
    http://jewishencyclopedia.com/search?utf8=✓&keywords=v5+p619&commit=search

    The relevant passage can be found in the lower right hand column of the page at the section titled: Rabbinical Modification of Laws. The text is small but it can be printed out for clarity. The idea is based upon the passage from Ezekiel 34:30-31 where the God character is telling the Israelites how special they are and says that they are men because they are his people. It's heavy on the BS but some people built a religion off of it.

    Ezekiel 34:30-31 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 34:30-31&version=GNV;KJV;NASB;NKJV;MEV

    The Jewish Encyclopedia has this statement at the top of the page: "GENTILE Meaning of the Term. A word of Latin origin (from "gens"; "gentilis"), designating a people not Jewish, commonly applied to non-Jews. The term is said (but falsely so) to imply inferiority and to express contempt. If used at all"

    So it's basically calling the Talmud and the Bible lies because it says that they are wrong to call Gentiles inferior. The Talmud and the Bible have been teaching that for centuries and people are probably more familiar with them than they are with the Jewish Encyclopedia.

    You will have to read the Talmud to pick out all of the sections that disparage non-Jews. You can read in on-line for free.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to Revelation chapter 7 it's only 144,000, or twelve thousand from each tribe.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't a typical Jewish belief. Most nations had slaves. And had since the beginning of history.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the problem with 'John's' Revelation. 12 tribes are mentioned - but Dan is missing because of its misdeeds, and Joseph included. But Joseph was excluded from being a 'tribe' - probably because he was Egyptianised. His 2 son's were 'adopted' by Jacob and became 'tribes'. The whole thing is simply hashed up from the OT. with Christian connotations.

    12 x 12 = completeness - not a specific number.
     
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    The Jewish fairy tale promises each Jew 2,800 slaves in the afterlife.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    OK, so how will Gentiles get into the golden cube when they don't have a gate to enter through?
     
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    And this is relevant today how?

    Find me some Canaanites with oxen in Israel and we'll talk about this issue at length.

    Most of the post does not contain quotes. For explanations, please bring quotes from the Talmud. I don't have the time to read it all.

    There are however a couple of extremely used and abused allegations so common that no quotes are needed.

    Niddah means menstruation, not filth.

    Again, not a law. I'll give the quote to show how rabbis contradict each other and why a statement in the Gemara can't be used to prove how Jews think (the numbers are links to footnotes):

    http://halakhah.com/pdf/nezikin/Avodah_Zarah.pdf (page 111)

    It's clear then that heathen women SHOULD BE CONSIDERED in a state of menstruation from birth because of the interdiction to touch them (a religious Jew is not allowed to touch a woman in a state of niddah). It's also clear that different rabbis have different opinions on this matter. It's also abundantly clear that this is not an issue of racism or superiority complex, but strictly a religious matter ("women who would turn [their husbands aside from the worship of God]").

    The original quote is not from the Talmud, Hebrew or Aramaic. It's from Rabbi Shimon bar Yochay's Mesechtas Sofrim 15: הטוב שבעובדי כוכבים, בשעת מלחמה הרוג (the best of the heathens in times of war, kill). The context is the exodus from Egypt.

    http://www.aish.com/atr/Misquoting_the_Talmud.html

    Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochay's phrase was originally about Egyptians, so tranlsating it "the best among the Egyptians" makes perfect sense. It's about those who help the enemy in times of war.

    Genocide my arse.

    Zionism is Jewish nationalism.

    Nope.

    There are certain movements within Orthodox Judaism whose adherents have distinctive dress codes. Some of those dress codes have been imposed by Christian European nations centuries ago. That's why most ultra-Orthodox and Haredi Jews wear black costumes and black hats. Punitive measures destined to marginalize and ridicule the Jews have become, over centuries, holy tradition.

    I think you're referring to the Neturei Karta. They sure are Orthodox (ultra-Orthodox), and they sure are brainwashed, but they are but a small fraction of all Orthodox Jews.

    Many Orthodox Jews wear normal clothes.
     
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    Parachute.

    Revelation's is a rerun of scriptures from the OT with additions added by 'John' to include Christians. Treat it for what it is. Jewish scriptures.
     
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    Oh by all means continue, its really entertaining watching you make up any meaning that pops into your head to apologize for jewish racial hatred toward those not jew.........


    ....only to end by saying they contradict each other.

    By 'all' means whatever makes you feel good, please continue.
     
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    "racial hatred"??

    Jews aren't a race,

    they can be of any race.

    there are black, white, brown, Asian Jews.
     
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    oh so that is your admission that anti-semitism is nothing more than a jewish concocted line of bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    anti-Semitism doesn't mean "hatred of the Jewish race".
     
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    ok so rs just told us jews have no race, however he defends their race above. bravo!

    I know they are the [un]race, how about from the atheist perspective, the not-race? :roll:
     
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    What he is saying is that Jews spread so wide in the various exiles over 3000 years that they have become part of separate races, but still of Jewish origin.

    Pisa's comments are all written down in Jewish scriptures/writings. He/she is not making things up.

    There are certainly contradictions because various people interprete things differently.

    Your posts are not constructive, just destructive.
     
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    yes I noted how black is white except on sundays where its really purple, unless the sun is shining then its green, and since green is racist it really means orange. Yeh I get it.

    Spare me the orwellian apologist song and dance. I understand very well people who make (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s of themselves then change the meaning of the words to cover it all up and hope people dont notice.

    No need to apologize.

    No my posts point out the BS quite well. rabbi 1 is a racist and says gentiles (not-jews) are heathens, and then when its pointed out that is racist then they try to bull(*)(*)(*)(*) us by pretending the definition means something it does not. Save it for the believers.

    My posts are not destructive, I am informative, the talmud destroys itself in racism, I am merely the critic who gets a certain entertainment value watching people try to defend the indefensible.


    No hes not but its certainly the way you are trying to sell what he is saying.
     

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