So was it God or people that evaluated the way humans needed to be treated, and wrote rules/books accordingly?
That is just absurd and is complete denial and avoidance of what was stated in my post. What part of "GOD made the rule" do you not understand. God made the rule that children are not to be punished for the sins of their parents. (A good rule). This refutes your claim 100%. This was a rule that God made (as per the OT). What you are saying is that because some of the people were acting like idiots - God acted like an idiot. God made this rule for the people that existed at the time - as they existed at the time. God then turns around completely contradicts his own rule. Islamist's are like the ancient Israelite's . How does having these Islamist's go out and kill children and babies "because their parents happen to be infidels" help the situation ? How is this "required". You can delude yourself all you like in your desperate attempt to apologize for xenophobic genocide and the killing of Children and Babies - your apology is illogical , irrational and simply makes no sense in context of what is stated in the OT.
So what you are saying is that humans have evolved and in the early days were pretty much animals. I agree.
Humans were pretty much animals in those days. As we have evolved we have became more civilized. Do you disagree?
I just showed you they have religion, you can still pray there, and you can't boot any imaginary people out of anything. This is going nowhere since you're being intellectually disingenuous.
That is not what I said does not reflect any of the main points made in my post in relation to the topic. You are engaging in avoidance. denial and deflection. This is typical of someone under the influence of sophisticated mind control techniques - not that you are under such influence but.... How this works is as follows: You tell a child that if they "question" or "do not believe" the tenets of some holy book - that the worst thing the mind can imagine will happen to them - eternal torture in the afterlife - for ever and ever and ever. That fear is then lodged deep in the adherents subconscious. When the adherent comes across information that conflicts with ingested dogma - the fear response is triggered. The adherent is not aware - on a conscious level - what is happening. The fear is that thinking some bad thought may lead to the horrible fate - eternal torture. The adherent will then try to avoid the "bad thought" - just as you are doing. They will come up with the most irrational and illogical propositions in order to defend their belief and attack the bad thought. When this fails they will avoid the thought by deflection or some other method. One thing that often happens - something you have not done - is demonization of the messenger. This is a common "albeit fallacious" attempt to avoid the bad thought by attacking the person rather than the information or idea. The adherent is taught some kind of "black vs white" "Good vs Evil" "God vs Devil" paradigm. Cult doctrine is "Good" .. anything that conflicts with this doctrine is "Evil". In addition - anyone who questions or conflicts with doctrine/dogma is "Evil".. under the influence of Satan. Satan is around every corner trying to trick us. This is a method of ramping up the fear factor. Just watch almost any televangelist and you will see this.
Of course I believe in evolution but, that is not the topic. This is a denial/avoidance response because you can't handle the "bad thoughts" presented in my post.
The one I asked you and you did not answer. doombug said: ↑ Not at all. What I am saying is that early man required such treatment. So was it God or people that evaluated the way humans needed to be treated, and wrote rules/books accordingly?
It only fits if you believe in God. Any claim you make about God - good or bad - indicates you believe in God. If you believe the Bible is fiction, then anything quoted in the Bible is also fiction.
the government is not alive. no "government" is religious, only people can choose that option. the people clearly some choose religion.
you pick. if I'm the one with the choice I'm going to make the best choice possible, any gods that don't meet with logic and reason must be eschewed.
According to the biblical fairy tale man knows the difference between good and evil just like Yahweh does. So man is as smart as Yahweh is on that topic. And since man knows the difference he can then judge Yahweh's actions as evil and be completely justified in doing so. Remember Genesis 3:22 (GNT)? = "22 Then the Lord God said, “Now these human beings have become like one of us and have knowledge of what is good and what is bad. They must not be allowed to take fruit from the tree that gives life, eat it, and live forever.” Yahweh is an evil despicable character who should be tortured in the lake of fire forever.
There are thousands of Gods, each with its own unique name and attributes. The biblical God's name is Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. He's an evil and despicable character. I can make comments about other literary characters without believing in them.
Then why are you so afraid to respond to the content of my post and keep deflecting to "evolution" which has nothing to do with my post. Of course I believe in evolution. What does this have to do with the God of the OT being depicted as a flip flopping genocidal maniac with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics ?
The question is not about what I believe or do not believe. Regardless of whether or not I believe in Zeus, Athena, Thor or YHWH - the God of the OT is depicted as a xenophobic flip flopping genocidal maniac with the most petty and nasty of human characteristics and emotions.
It is good that you believe in evolution. So you agree that humans today are not the same as they were many, many centuries ago. So why would God deal with them the same as He would with modern humans?
