Magnitude of Trump adviser Flynn's Russia scandal gains clarity

That is not, by itself a crime. But very serious crimes have been committed.

“In the spectrum of crimes involving the leaking of classified information, publicly revealing the contents of SIGINT — signals intelligence — is one of the most serious felonies. Journalists (and all other nongovernmental citizens) can be prosecuted under federal law for disclosing classified information(*)only under the narrowest circumstances; reflecting how serious SIGINT is considered to be, one of those circumstances includes leaking the contents of intercepted communications, as defined this way by 18 § 798 of the U.S. Code:

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates … or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes … any classified information … obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”, THE INTERCEPT, The Leakers Who Exposed Gen. Flynn’s Lie Committed Serious — and Wholly Justified — Felonies, By, Glenn Greenwald, February 14 2017.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

 

No, it's not a crime not to tell Pence everything. They just used Pence, and his reputation, to cover up a lie and then didn't have the decency to tell him he was used once the lie was exposed. Looks like smoke to me. Where there's smoke...

However, your mileage may vary.

 

He should have apologized if he failed to adequately brief Pence. The crime of "lying to the FBI" requires intent. "lying" requires intent. We have not heard the tapped conversations or even seen the transcripts yet. Try to be patient.

 

"Trump, the Whiny Little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" Bill Maher

God himself could split the sky to come down from the Heavens with all his armies of angels blowing their horns across every corner of the planet proclaiming Trump was guilty and every one of the Trumpistas would duly become atheists.

 

Where has election rigging been demonstrated by Flynn's actions? His telling the Russians that Trump would lift sanctions is not the same thing as rigging the election. It certainly is the sort of thing that could give the Russians motive to attempt such a thing, but it doesn't demonstrate that it actually happened.

Now, coupled with the accusations of Russians hacking into the DNC and subsequently leaking materials damaging to Killary during the campaign, this could be at least circumstantial evidence of some kind of collusion. It's all empty accusations without a factual basis at this point, however. Find us a smoking gun.

 

Ah, true!

 

How could Flynns phone calls possibly be classified. He was just a private citizen.

 

So you think intelligence recordings of foreign governments isn't? Weren't you guys whining about DNC emails a little bit ago?

 

That is the only thing he will ever say that your tribe will agree with.

He is right . The Press is not an enemy to the People, but we no longer have a working Press. A working Press is not yellow journalism, nor is it a mouthpiece of the CIA, nor does it go into blackout over questioning the neoliberal neocon globalist scheme to create the optimum disparity in income.

When MSM, is defined by yellow journalism, deserting journalistic principles and integrity, you do not have a Press. You have an enemy to the people and to a our republic, which demands a real Press, instead of indoctrinating americans by yellow journalism and blacking out the credible voices who have been trying to inform the people for years on what is going on.

 

Poor Flynn. Apparently "he din' do nuffin'" yet he still got fired.

And what's up with that moron Trump? Firing a perfectly innocent person like Flynn?

 

Nice bit of doublespeak, comrade.

 

Where's the proof Trump or anyone intended to break the law?

 

Oh good. So now on top of all the deflections, lame excuses, and cries of "fake news" we can now add the timeless "ignorance of the law" defense. I see you Trump boys are going with the shotgun method on this one.

 

If you look closely you will discover the post is not about Trump, it's about Libby acceptance of "ANY" conservative

 

So there is a case of unfair or constructive dismissal?

 

Sorry, but intent is not relevant.

Besides, Trump has no respect for the law.

 

I nominate the above post for "richest ironic post from a democrat for 2017"

 

I simply have to step in here and educate you.

IT WAS FLYNN'S IDEA.

I know this has gotta hurt you right in the groan, but there it is.

http://www.thomaswictor.com/leakers-beware/

Here is the timeline and data that nails the traitors...

Quoted ony in part to follow the forum rules (you can read the whole thing through your tears by going to the link):


Hiring a hit man

In law enforcement, officers must avoid “entrapment.” A potential criminal must decide to commit the crime him or herself. Officers can’t put the idea into the person’s head. If, for example, a person wants to hire a hit man to murder a spouse, a police officer will pose as a murderer. That officer will ask over and over, “Are you sure you want to do this?”

The officer will describe in detail what he&#8217;s going to do, as well as the consequences. The person hiring the hit man therefore makes an informed choice to commit the crime. <-- Re-read that.

Donald Trump posed as a hit man. He made sure that the leakers in the IC knew that their actions were illegal. He WARNED them. Then he launched his sting.

Timeline of the leakers being identified

August 17, 2016 &#8211; As the Republican nominee, Donald Trump received his first classified briefing by the IC. The briefing was prepared by Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper. Retired US Army General Michael Flynn sat in.

September 29, 2016 &#8211; Time magazine published classified information that the IC briefed Donald Trump that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The source for this claim is an unidentified intelligence official.

October 31, 2016 &#8211; Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid wrote a letter to FBI Director James Comey, claiming that Comey had &#8220;explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government &#8212; a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States.&#8221;

November 15, 2016 &#8211; Donald Trump received his first presidential daily briefing (PDB). He was given highly classified information by members of the IC. Immediately the IC told the press that Trump demanded security clearances for his children. Trump denied the claim. General Michael Flynn sat in on the PDB.

&#8211; Trump chose General Michael Flynn as his National Security Adviser. A former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Flynn is trained in espionage.

December 9, 2016 &#8211; The IC told the press that Trump receives only one PDB per week, at his request. Initially the press did not report that Vice President Elect Mike Pence received the six other presidential daily briefings.

Late December, 2016 &#8211; The FBI opened an investigation into the claims that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 US presidential election.
January 10, 2017 &#8211; The press began to write about a 35-page dossier put together by an alleged British former spy. The dossier claimed that Russia was attempting to blackmail Donald Trump through the use of sex tapes. Trump denied the allegation.

January 11, 2017 &#8211; Trump described his first sting. In order to identify the people leaking classified information to the press, Trump did not tell his staff that the IC was about to brief him. After the briefing, the news was leaked to the press. Trump was therefore able to identify the leakers. He warned them that this behavior is illegal.


January 11, 2017 &#8211; DNI James Clapper spoke to Trump by telephone about the leaks. Clapper issued a statement that the leaks are &#8220;extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security.&#8221;

January 23, 2017 &#8211; Having LISTENED TO THE TAPES, the FBI cleared General Michael Flynn of any wrongdoing in his conversations with Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. Flynn did not violate the Logan Act by attempting to influence US foreign policy.

February 2, 2017 &#8211; The IC leaked what it said were details of conversations between President Trump, Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. Both Australia and Mexico denied media reports that the calls were acrimonious and that Trump made threats, was rude, and behaved badly.


&#8211; In an interview with the Washington Post, General Michael Flynn categorically denied having discussed sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Thus we see that the Washington Post had been given classified information by the IC and wanted to get Flynn on record so that they could spring what they thought was a brilliant trap.

February 9, 2017 &#8211; The New York Times and the Washington Post published articles claiming that General Michael Flynn discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December of 2016.

Why couldn&#8217;t the IC tell us if Flynn had broken the law or not? Because everyone had been given a different story.

General Flynn also knew he was being recorded. Therefore we can have no doubt that this was a sting operation coordinated between President Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, General Flynn, the FBI, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).

February 13, 2016 &#8211; The IC told the press that in late January, acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates warned the White House that General Michael Flynn may be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, due to his conversations with Ambassador Kislyak. Yates based her opinion on &#8220;a report.&#8221; Sally Q. Yates is the first of the disloyal Democrats to be passed false information.

February 16, 2017 &#8211; Donald Trump gave a press conference in which he admitted to the sting. He said that the leaks are real, but the news is fake.

 

This just gets better and better. So now we can add some hare brained conspiracy theory where Trump supposedly set up a sting operation to the previous deflections, lame excuses, cries of "fake news," and the timeless "ignorance of the law" copout.

What's next guys? Aliens? Demonic possession?

 

Leavenworth awaits.

 

So far this is just a case of common unsupported political nonsense. Political class SOP.

 

Its real simple which is more egregious a hacker hacking private comminications and leaking embarassing information or employees at NSA leaking classified information in order to bring down an administration which they oppose politically?

 

I think Trump is doing the leaking.

Meanwhile, Flynn took $40K from Russia and failed to report that income.

 

They can't/won't do anything to Flynn without the Clinton-China corruption blowing up in their faces.

 

Either way I am for it. Too much "transparency, Washington style" the last 16 years. Leak it all. I don't care the reason. I pay taxes. I own the paper and the ink with which their documents are made.

(*)(*)(*)(*) the government.