Major Study Finds Masks Don’t Reduce COVID-19 Infection Rates <<MOD WARNING>>

I don’t “pick” on anyone. Fauci has been held up as the definitive expert. I feel if he wants credit and everyone else wants to give him credit, people like me who believe in telling the truth should give him some “credit” as well.

I’m on record praising Fauci and Birx. I wrote a long piece about the things I liked about Fauci at one point. I’m on record criticizing Fauci and Birx. I know in a land of hero worship my position is confusing to many. I judge each thing someone says against the facts. Not against how much I like them. Or on what position of authority they hold. Or on whether or not they roll their eyes at a politician I dislike.

Overall, I’m not impressed with any of the bureaucrats or politicians in regard to Covid. As @LangleyMan points out, experts still aren’t recommending the correct masks. The whole thing is an avalanche of incompetence, lies, and political posturing.

At the end of the day, Fauci and Adams and Birx are all adults who make their own decisions. When they make the wrong ones or lie, I’ll call them out, just like I call out lies of the media.

In closing, anyone who is in the position Fauci is in has the responsibility of protecting the American people from infectious disease. When you are in that position, you recommend practices you know save lives. You don’t wait weeks or months to recommend known mitigation strategies and you don’t blatantly lie if there is a shortage. You tell the truth and work on solving the shortage.

 

What Fauci said or didn't say in July has no bearing on any events that actually took place in February or March. Also, we don't know how accurate the transcribe actually is since we cannot hear what actually was said and the questions refer to events that happened months previously. How many of us can remember exactly what we said or knew 5 months previously

With only 15 cases and zero deaths no one would have started to wear a mask just because someone in government who hardly anyone had heard of advised them to wear a mask. Half of the population are refusing to wear a mask now and you have 22 million cases and 375000 deaths. And he gave the reason that he is not going to recommend mask wearing in the March 8th broadcast so he was not lying. He said this ""It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it," in that broadcast.

You are saying all this yet you wrote just a few weeks ago that you think the more negative implications of mask wearing outweigh their protective qualities.

 

You haven't pointed out where the lie is! He did not say that masks are "unnecessary and wont stop the spread of disease"

 

LOL.
Yes anyone who wants a mask can get a mask.
Sounds familiar.

The wife just reminded me we are down to 96 rolls of TP.

Maia Anderson - Wednesday, September 23rd, 2020"

Healthcare workers are still seeing critical shortages of N95 masks, and organizations representing millions of providers are asking the federal government for more help, The Washington Post reported.

A survey of 21,500 nurses conducted in August found that 68 percent of them were still required to reuse respirators, with a nurse in Texas reporting that she's still wearing the same five N95 masks she was given in March, according to the Post.

The American Hospital Association said this month that the situation regarding N95 masks remains "fragile and challenging," and Susan Bailey, president of the American Medical Association, said the situation is "maddening, frustrating, mind-blowing, aggravating," the Post reported.

6 reasons N95 masks remain in shortage across the US (beckershospitalreview.com)

 

Tell me American aren't that stupid. Say they have enough education to know masks stop disease and that they can get the world news?
I mean, I know there are jokes about you all being married to your sisters and wrestling alligators, but they are jokes aren't they?

 

Just a question,

 

If I can smell your breath your mask is not working.

 

You just need to look at the protest at Capitol to see the thousands not wearing masks even though there are now over 22 million positive cases and over 375000 deaths. Perhaps you should direct your post to someone in this thread that posted that the more negative implications of mask wearing outweigh their protective qualities?

 

Don't wear masks with the valve: if you are contagious and you don't know, the mask with the valve will endanger the others.
So ... wear masks without the valve.

 

Maybe.

 

Fauci’s statement on 60 minutes was a lie. Unless you want to go back to his incompetence as a defense. The big lie was that people shouldn’t be wearing masks then. There are numerous other lies in that interview as well that I’ve pointed out. Including his claim masks only really effective for preventing infected individuals from passing on the infection and then claiming healthcare workers needed them to protect themselves. Again, Fauci’s false statements and illogical statements are so numerous you don’t even notice them anymore.

You should think critically about what you just wrote. You claim nobody would wear a mask if told to. You simultaneously claim so many people would wear masks there wouldn’t be enough for healthcare workers. Do you understand how ridiculous of an argument that is? Unbelievable.

LOL. I said it’s possible and something we need to consider. You realize Fauci warned of the same thing in the 60 Minutes interview? LOL. You really need to sit down and think this stuff out. Regurgitating media and so called fact checkers makes your arguments look silly.

 

It’s a pretty good rule of thumb if government tells you you don’t need something it’s probably because government can’t provide it. Certainly agree with you on that.

LOL. Back about July we noticed we only had one big Sam’s Club package left. When we were “out of quarantine” in August I made a Sam’s Club run (it’s an hour and a half drive) and got two packages. When we went to put them away we found two more big packages way back on a deep shelf. Need to hire someone to do inventory. LOL.

Well, here’s another “Post” article a little more recent with good news.

https://nypost.com/dispatch/heres-where-to-buy-3m-n95-masks-at-their-lowest-prices-yet/

 

I met my first legit alligator hunter last fall. Good dude with interesting stories. But I’m beginning to wonder about the intelligence level of my countrymen. Really though it’s not a line breeding problem or a raw intelligence problem. People are taught not to think here and to submit to authority. That’s the kind of combination that ends up with poor leaders and citizens that can’t delineate between a bad authoritarian and a good leader.

 

LOL You also stated that you think the more negative implications of mask wearing outweigh their protective qualities so you must be a liar and illogical too!

Wrong again. I claimed nobody/hardly anyone would wear a mask when less than a few hundred positive cases existed, I stated that Fauci said that mask supplies would dry up.

You are all over the place and you can't stick to one story due to all your flip flopping. You did not say that "it’s possible and something we need to consider", you wrote the definite statement " I think those more negative implications outweigh their protective qualities."

Unlike you, I have been promoting mask usage for the general population from day one including stating that even a paper mask is better than nothing.

 

Friday, January 8, 2021, 5:54 PM EST. Just a reminder that not only has this thread's claim been completely and thoroughly debunked but that actual science (not far-right extremist blog lies) shows masks do work.

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Holy Fornication you did unbelievable amount of work.

You is the Ultimate Uber Debunker.meister

 

Yes, I definitely believe placing too much faith in masks at the expense of social distancing has occurred. I repeatedly told you masks are capable of protecting yourself and others, but only if used correctly.

LOL. You can’t say Fauci has to protect supplies from the public and then claim the public would never consent to wearing masks anyway. Also, if there were no cases, why on earth would hospitals need masks? It’s a bizarre argument.

I sure did say both. Stating facts is not flip flopping. I’ve praised Fauci and I’ve called him a pathological lier. Not a flip flop. Calling balls and strikes isn’t flip flopping.

When was day one? February 17? March 8? April 3?

The thing is, you are now on record as being opposed to mask usage before pandemics are out of control. You only favor usage when case rates have already skyrocketed. You are also on record opposing mask usage in the places most infections occur, preferring to only wear masks in places where transmission is much less likely to occur. You are not a promoter of mask usage.

 

I'm pretty sure Fauci hasn't lost a moments peace, since as a doctor he took an oath to do no harm.

 

That’s a troubling thought.

 

Nope. I'm calling your previous post an utter mess. You haven't looked.

the kinds average people usually wear in China and South Korea. I've told you SO OFTEN BEFORE.
These are the words of Fauci. So it's clear again you have not seen that interview.

If that were so, than you would not have asked questions about what 3M masks.

I have watched the March interview where you accuse Fauci that he lied. You haven't watched it. It's obvious this material is too difficult for you.



Hence you ignore that Fauci said that normal people should be wearing surgical masks due to a shortage.
No lies there.

 

He literally said it's HIS POINT, that due to shortages that normal people shouldn't be wearing masks.
It would be ineffective and lead the shortages to sick and healthcare workers who really need to stop the spread.

Hence it's no lie.

 

LoL I cant take all the credit, I copy/pasted a good amount of that from another website similarly dedicated to shoving facts down the threats of deniers.

 

He lied about masks in February.

 

Of course. Sheesh.

 

Can someone make a map with links?
We have about 1/2 dozen quotes from multiple sources that different dates.