Man facing charges after escaping quarantine hotel in New Zealand

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...harges-after-escaping-quarantine-hotel-in-new

HYPERLINK above has full article

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Police dressed in full protective gear arrested the man about six miles away from the hotel in the northern city of Auckland.................

Authorities said that the man had been on the run for about 12 hours before he was detained..............

COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said it was not immediately clear how the man escaped, though security footage in the area showed a man hiding in bushes away from security guards.

Hipkins told the New Zealand Herald that the quarantine facilities are heavily managed and secured, adding, “I am very concerned that someone made it out.”

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with an open mind, please read the article or the above snippets

The man's crime, for which he may face 6 months in prison, is because he left imprisonment because he was told that he was sick. If he can go out and about, how can he be so sick? What have these folks done by allowing the govt to pick and choose folks who they wish to place into ann internment camp by saying that "you have covid". A virus which isn't even close to being a death sentence

"the facilities are heavily managed and secured"...does that sound like a "hotel" to you?

wake up folks

 

LoL, He was on the run for 12 hours and only got 6 miles? His egress rate was 1/2 a mile an hour? Was he crawling lol

Not to belittle the Hitler style idiots out there that have put a bounty on a virus with a 99% survival rate.

 

" on the run"

just imagine that. He was being pursued because the govt claimed that he had a type of flu. If he was deathly ill, how could he be on the run instead of hospitalized?

 

Logically speaking (and simply speaking), IMO, the epidemiological community hasn't yet figured out that certain types of individuals are most susceptible to Covid. One doesn't quarantine everyone with Covid. One quarantines the most susceptible to Covid...Something else the epidemiological community hasn't yet figured out (this New Zealand case isn't an indication of that)) is to quarantine the Covid-sick from the non Covid-sick.
I mean, how many Covid sick individuals were either elderly or had multiple co-morbidities that were quarantined with the runaway? Duh epidemiology.

What should New Zealand do in this situation? Well since New Zealand is already authoritarian in this matter, they might as well do something authoritarian which actually does some good: Is the runaway sick guy highly susceptible to Covid? Yes? Detain him. No? Let him live out his natural life. Also, have New Zealand quarantine all the highly susceptible to Covid. If a highly susceptible to Covid person is sick with Covid, don't quarantine that sick individual with other highly susceptible Covid non-sick individuals. BTW, being fully vaccinated does make someone (albeit temporarily, it seems) not highly susceptible to Covid no matter if the person is elderly or has multi co-morbidities..

 

Enjoy the Bill of Rights while they STILL EXIST....dread "catch it and you're dead" Covid, if NOTHING else, has revealed just how many Einsatzgruppen wannabes walk the earth....

 

this isn't about trying to control a virus because you can't, especially an engineered one.

Now to important matters, why not Ren as your avatar?

 

I'm Stimpy because I wanna make it appear I'm dumb so I can ensnare someone.

EDIT: I know, I'm an iiiiiiiidiot!

 

The only way to control the virus is not allow the most susceptible to Covid to get Covid. I assume people care about deaths from Covid.

The worry that epidemiology constantly carries that hospitals will be overrun is bogus and is, IMO, one reason why the mandates epidemiology suggest are so ineffective. The worry about number of cases is another bogus worry of epidemiology.

More EDITING: Economies didn't need to be shut down. Schools didn't need to be shut down. Quarantine the most susceptible to Covid and let everyone else go about their normal lives.

Mebe some of the fatties will start to exercise and take themselves off the multiple co-morbidities list?

 

The fact that he even felt the need to run away and escape in the first place probably indicates something about the conditions in those facilities.

 

lol Right. lol

 

There was a 1995 movie called Outbreak, where the army takes over a small town and refuses to allow the population to leave after there is a disease outbreak. The film explored civil rights being taken away and an entire population being put under restrictive military rule.

 

Coming soon to a liberal run paradise near you. Michigan, Komifornia, Detroit, Chicago, San fran……….

 

EXACTLY. not about controlling the virus thru people but controlling people with a visor.

 

Long Live the Fighters !!

 

Similar to a scene in the 1984 movie, Red Dawn when a marxist army invades small town America.

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This thread topic reminds me of my idea that if worst comes to worst we could put everyone, and I mean everyone, into a FEMA camp and not let anyone out until 14 days after the last person to show symptoms recovers or dies. Pandemic over!

I know that it is impossible for America to do that, but we really must overhaul the CDC. It was a complete joke during this pandemic.

 

Are you expressing your approval or support for that idea, or are you being sarcastic?

Sometimes it's hard to tell these days.

 

Imagine going all that way just to become incarcerated. He could have robbed a liquor store with a lot less effort, cost and fuss.

 

Oh, it's up in the air regarding whether you take it as sarcasm or serious. It's an impossibility so it doesn't matter.

 

I still can't tell what the point of your comment was, or which side of this you're on.

 

It was a failed attempt at humor. I was mocking the authoritarian approach to covid by our friends in Australia and New Zealand. Changing one's complete way of life in the face of a bug with a very low death rate is beyond the walls of common sense. Give the people advice and leave them alone. This not something that should cause us to lose our hard won freedom. Save the authoritarian action for true emergencies - like a war.

 

That would be 4,5 million people in the EU. Since you mention Hitler... that number gets to be close to what Hitler did.
Also, the amount of people who needs care in hospitals is much higher than such a number.
There isn't enough staff or beds to cope with that... which is going to lead to a FAR higher amount of deaths.
And that's where the real obvious problem lies.

 

It's rather contagious. The death rate is only this low, because people can get the care provided in hospitals.
The approach of no biggy, was applied in Brazil, where eventually people died because they ran out of beds, staff and so the ability to give some basic care leading to the chaos and death all over the country. It shows covid is far more deadly than getting murdered in Brazil. And getting murdered in Brazil is easy.

 

Very contagious. Not so deadly.

 

Not seeing you react to the argument that the amount of sick people needing help, and the hospitals running out of staff, beds and other equipment is the massive problem that otherwise unfolds with catastrophic consequences. That's why the problem is being managed by making sure the amount of people being sick is low.

People in India and Brazil died needlessly on the doorsteps of hospitals waiting their turn to receive help. Such situation almost occurred in the US as well. It's only thanks to people managing the problem, that it did not get that far.

So it's just "not so deadly" WHEN managed.