Mass shootings at New Zealand mosques kill 49

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would it be right if I asked *name removed* if he was aware all of the people killing each other in Chicago were black? As if he has anything to do with it.

    "You... do know that dude who shot that cop was a black dude, right?"
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not that one, apparently.

    Anyone would have had all the time in the world considering he hit a few side rooms before walking into the main area. Easily 30 seconds to realize what was going on.

    One dude rushed the shooter... after everyone was already dead and he was the only one left. Could have stood back and blew his head off instead.

    Oh well.
     
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    Sounds like the mutterings of a National Socialist (Nazi). Not sure why anyone would consider this right-wing. Has no problem with big gov controlling the means of production.
     
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    How many people get told they can't own a car?
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how many in America are denied the right to own a gun, many for the same reasons as in New Zealand

    my point is, for most, it's easy to get a car... unless your a drunk driver, ect.....
     
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    But in the second one, yes.

    "Second shooting at mosque in Linwood
    A second shooting happened at a mosque in the Linwood area of the city.

    One Friday prayer goer returned fire with a rifle or shotgun.

    Witnesses said they heard multiple gunshots around 1.45pm.

    A well known Muslim local chased the shooters and fired two shots at them as they sped off.

    He was heard telling police officers he was firing in "self defence"."

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213039
     
  7. BaghdadBob

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    At least someone down under gets it.
     
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  8. FreshAir

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    when Christians and Muslims go to a house of their God, they have faith they are safe and their God will protect them

    I say if God wont stop children from being molested in a church, that God is not gonna care about adults either
     
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    I guess this jackwagon can't see the irony of his last sentence.
     
  10. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are several million people
    Nice!! Good for him.

    I just watched the video that was live streamed.
     
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    Apparently they left the first mosque because someone returned fire with a long arm. Rifle or shotgun its described as.
     
  12. Reality

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    You have to get two character references to get a license to own a car these days fella?

    It can be pulled at any time the police feel like it and your car ownership is then illegal?

    Etc?

    Also: Driving car on public roads = privilege. Keeping and bearing arms = natural right.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My heart goes out to the innocent victims, this is a real tragedy. But how come Islamic attacks are never called racist?
     
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    is that hard for most people?

    how hard is it for a ex-felon to get a gun here, it's not a 'right' here either if you have to have the 'privilege' to have the 'right'

    these fanatical Christian had no issue getting a gun it seems
     
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    The problem is that we really are on the verge of an open civil war across the Western world. Tim Pool, Jordan Peterson, the Weinstein brothers, Steven Pinker, Johanthan Haidt have all spoken on this. They have all put the blame for where we are on the left for fueling the alt-right by playing identity politics. Specifically:
    1. White conservatives are being universally demonized across western MSM.
    2. Demographic replacement efforts have ramped up across the West with preferential treatment given to the new populations (all this while the new immigrants seem to despise white people, despise American history/culture and despise conservatives)
    3. Conservatives are increasingly being muzzled and denied a platform to argue their ideas

    Through their actions, the MSM has successfully otherized many conservatives and whites to the point that they now see immigrants and the left as an existential threat. I should know, it happened it to me. I was progressive not more than two years ago. When the open attacks on my white identity by the MSM became blatant and vicious, I became defensive and identified the left as an enemy of white people in general and me specifically. It is a human instinct that Haidt predicts all humans will act on when their identity is attacked.

    Haidt on how the left's identity politics are fueling the alt right:


    Pool on the coming civil war:
     
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    there is no excuse for Christian or Muslim religious Fanatics when they murder like this
     
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    You're missing the point: A right is not a privilege and should not be treated as a privilege. Licensing back your right on a cops can pull it if they feel like it without actual cause, and you have to apply with references at least one a relative (what if you don't have any? what if they're dead? what if they're all scum and you're not?), heavily restricted basis like that is wrong, intrinsically speaking.

    the felon who has had their rights stripped from them? Yes, now you're understanding the rub. You're treating the average citizen like a criminal convicted of a heinous crime.
    Leaving aside that I think its unconstitutional to remove those rights from persons no longer "on paper" (ie under control of the justice system through parole or probation or incarceration), to include their voting rights as well.

    You think these were legal firearms? If they were: The law doesn't work as it didn't stop this person and likely DID chill many of the victims from getting their own or one of the imam's from having one at the mosque. O wait..... protection and self defense aren't valid purposes for owning a firearm in new zealand.... oops.
    If they weren't: He got around them and citizens were disarmed and therefore helpless.

    You realize one of the attacks was stopped by return fire from one of the victims.... right?
     
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    cause we never hear ISIS attack people's race I guess, only their religion.... regardless they are fanatical Muslim Terrorists and this was a fanatical Christian Terrorist

    I think some people want to call him racist to play down that he was a fanatical Christian terrorist that wanted to kill Muslims... this was a religious based attack
     
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    Here's more:

     
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    I'm sure as a devout liberal CNN fan, you do. That while completely ignoring all the corruption reported daily about the left.
     
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    yes, the left has their crazies too, just like the right does... no one denies that

    we should Condemn it regardless of Party of Religion

    violent Fanatical Terrorism is evil
     
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    Huh...

    The shooter self identifies as a far leftist in his manifesto. The fake newz industry is making him out to be a right winger "nationalist."
     
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    Christian? Where'd ya get that one from? Any time you can equate Christianity with Islam...
     
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    Ha ha what does it say when you're post receive none and you have to respond to you're own posts? Once a troll always a troll I guess.
     
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    So has Bernie Sanders. Do we blame him as well or no?
     

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