"Mate, don't you know this is a Muslim area. (UK)

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  1. Mattos_12

    Mattos_12 New Member

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    Yes, certainly very rich countries have become very rich by allowing skilled people from across the world to work and innovate in their countries. Some (*)(*)(*)(*)ty countries in a desert don't....not sure what the point is.
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    My point is only European and North American countries are expected to stomach, "Diversity"
     
  3. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Still waiting for you to get to the point...
     
  4. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    By putting the term diversity within quotation marks, you seem to imply that it is an undesirable (or at the very least counter productive) thing. Diversity and tolerance are the hallmarks of the world's most successful societies.

    I grew up in a Britain where my schoolmates were Pakistani, West Indian, Arabic, Chinese, French and German. Some were undoubtedly Muslim, some Jewish, some Christian, and some with no religious affiliation - but I was not aware who was what, as it was of no general consequence. I was aware of who was a good cricketer or a good centre forward, because that mattered at that stage of my life. But that diversity (and acceptance of differences) has made my life more interesting at this stage.

    A monoculture may be comfortable for the closed minded, but it does little for societal progression. Great Britain was a multicultural society long before it was the United Kingdom, and of course this brought about its frictions (principally between the Britons who inhabited these isles) but the cross pollination of cultures made possible an empire that controlled roughly one third of humanity. Your own nation would not have existed without that empire. So attack the uncivilised behaviour, and mindless bigotry, of tiny minorities within these isles, by all means. But don't imply that it occurs because of European diversity.
     
  5. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    id like to take a "(*)(*)(*)" friend of mine to walk past those sorry jackasses lol. my bud is 6'3'' and 240lbs. solid, and he likes to drag lol. not only is he big but he is very well known round these parts to kick some serious ass, has a black belt in judo and does a good bit of MMA training. Id literally pay to see these little Islamic sissies dare talk to him like that, because in the end all they will have a video of is a man dressed like a female rock star beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of them and shoving a size 15 high heel straight up their virgin (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s lol, then he would make them say "yes mam" lol.
     
  6. Jackster

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    Id agree some diversity is fine, but in low enough numbers the hosts culture, language ect are adopted, this imo is healthy. But just because some diversity is deemed good doesnt mean we need to overdose on it, should every country mirror the worlds population? If so whites should be 10% of the population everywhere, we need to get a hell of lot more Chinese and Indians in and ship some whites, wheres the limit? We all have friends from all sorts of backgrounds, im certainly not one of those who thinks countries should be of one race. But there should be a balance, where that balance is should be able to be debated with labels being thrown around. I doubt theres a country on earth that would vote their people to become a minority in their own country, if theres been such a survey done id love to see it! If not where do we get this idea the majority of the planet wants this mass diversity? Studies and human observations tend to show the opposite is true.

    Question Diversity racism and multiculturalism
    [video=youtube;vCAkveDskkM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCAkveDskkM&list=FL-9ZWa3xwj5awjeFzXnJDSQ&index=1[/video]
     
  7. TopCat

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    Are you suggesting that the UK is a "successful" society? In what way? We're a confused, self-loathing, weak nation in a state of permanent social and moral decay, drowning under a mountain of debt. Sort of stretches the definition of success a little bit.
     
  8. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Can we have some examples throughout history?

    - - - Updated - - -

    [video=youtube;INll6Y5iqbM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INll6Y5iqbM[/video]
     
  9. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Since when is it illegal to try to change the law?
     
  10. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    I think we may be in almost total agreement upon this point. I think it is fairly obvious that I was not recommending that any culture be subsumed by that of immigrants, although the record shows that has happened in what is now the USA, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc. and to the UK, going back to the Roman occupation and the Germanic immigrations to the British Isles. The advancing and receding of cultures appears to be the story of the world, and I doubt any of the 'original' inhabitants welcomed the 'invaders'.

    With respect, you are debating a straw man. I don't believe anyone (and certainly not I) suggested that the native born British become a minority in this green and pleasant land. Again, as far as the question of balance is concerned, we appear to be in agreement. Immigration, if done clumsily brings with it a number of problems - most of which devolve about the first generation of immigrants naturally wanting to cling on to 'the old ways'. By the second or third generations most of those problems dissipate.

    And while we are speaking of this, I wish to address the question of who is British, or American, or Australian, or Canadian. A naturalised Pakistani, who was born elsewhere, but grew up in the UK, is, irrespective of his religion, or the type of food he customarily eats, as British as someone like me. And I have part German ancestry going back many generations, but does that make me less British than someone whose ancestors came over with William the Conqueror?

    IMO, we are getting our knickers in a knot over a tiny (but vocal) minority of religious nutters, and seeing an ethnic takeover of the UK. The Muslim population of Great Britain is roughly 2.5%, and has increased by roughly 1.5% over the last sixty years. The Sharia is not recognised as the legal code governing British society, and the fears of an Europe dominated by Islam are a touch premature.
     
  11. Leo2

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    LOL, that is an admirably self-deprecating post (I am not an admirer of nationalism) but in what way are we different from most of the nations surrounding us? As for success, that is very much a matter of individual judgment. :smile:
     
  12. leftysergeant

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    Can somebody point me to proof that they followed anybody beyond the grounds of the mosque?
     
  13. Leo2

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    Well, I would suggest the USA, in the past, as an excellent example. :smile:
     
  14. leftysergeant

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    Vote in a Labour Government for the next decade or so and you'll get over it. Bloody Tories are about as bad as Republicans when it comes to mucking up government services and infrastructure.
     
  15. Stucky

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    This cant be true, Islam is a religion of love. How dare you post such inflamatory videos. You must be a Jew. (Please note sarcasm before you rage at me).
     
  16. fiddlerdave

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    Its sad so many Righties are completely unable to distinguish between consenting and non-consenting adult behaviors, and consider them equivalent.
     
  17. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if harassing and "beating homosexuals" is the criterion for an "unwelcome multicultural" group, where would our Right Wing Christians who have done the same thing go?
     
  18. Stucky

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    There you go again, Dave. Just throwing a statement out there without citing the source. What "Right Wing Christians"? When was this done. Where. How bout some facts, Dave. Otherwise you're just bloviating.
     
  19. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if these "zones" have been "set up all across the UK", why does the nutcase Daily Mail still show the SAME fake Muslim pasting the SAME signs in the SAME area, and doesn't even dare say anything more than "Seen in certain London areas"?

    Complete and utter BS.
     
  20. Stucky

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    So, you're saying that it's ok for YOU to fill a thread with BS but not the Daily Mail? Still a hypocrite arent you Dave?
     
  21. Albert Di Salvo

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    Link please?
     
  22. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hre is one fun episode. At church. Ordered by a pastor. Observed and applauded by the Christian onlookers on probable christian sheriff who showed up.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/1...-flock-to-beat-gay-couple-arriving-at-church/
    Here's some video to enjoy:
    [video=youtube;SzIoTzW_WQQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzIoTzW_WQQ[/video]


    Some other quickies:
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/terror-from-the-right
     
  23. Jarlaxle

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    Except there might be 50 of them, or they might just pelt you with rocks, bottles, and Molotov cocktails.

    And, of course, it's Britain, where self-defense is not permitted: your attackers would get immunity from prosecution to testify against you!

    Islam is a cancer on the human race and needs to be eradicated as such.
     
  24. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    Why not pick up a book, read a reliable newspaper, or Google facts of which you are unsure? Why choose to look ignorant by spouting nonsense?

    http://www.e-lawresources.co.uk/Public-and-private-defences.php

    I have no brief for the teachings of Islam, but that may be, and probably has been, said of any organised religion, including Christianity.
     
  25. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    While Obama is a failure and Chicago is a crap hole of progressive ideology. This is a set of religious laws being enforced.
     

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